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U.S.A.F. 1980 - 1984

U.S. Military Contractor 1984 - 1989

The Iron Curtain is no longer, mission accomplished.

A big 'Oooooh Rahhhh' to all Veteran's and their supporters!

Tours: Arizona, Germany, New Mexico, Alaska, Maine, Turkey, Montana

Everyone just rest assured though, that no matter the level of public support, the brave U.S. soldiers will continue to volunteer, continue to fight, and continue to protect YOUR freedoms.

God bless every one of them.

and you're right......regardless, the military personnel around the world are on the lookout today as they are everyday, so that people can remain "too busy" to give a shit about how and why they have "Freedom"!!

Yes, thanks for the parades and public efforts; and thanks for the individual support of our veterans and those currently serving - I went to the traditional Navy sun-rise "laying of the wreath" on the waters and the Two-Bell Ceremony

Afterwards, I went to the VA hospital with a case of cookies (donated by a local grocery) to the "infirmed" ward (the floor with the very very old ones are) and gave it to them. I also took up 4 20lb bags of dog-food to feed the "pets" that the VA allows (an INCREDIBLE policy they have there).

But I think think the BIGGEST and BEST thing I did was give about 20 (donated) "free domino's pizza" coupons for the nurses on that floor that go WAY beyond their job desciption to make these vets feel more comfortable.

The VA figures are still staggering, WWWII Vets, Korean War Vets, and some of the early stages of Vietnam Vets are dying off at more than 25,000 per week.

I'm thankful and proud to still have one 95 year old uncle from the original Navy CB's (construction battalions) and one 82 year old uncle - a WWII submarine veteran.

Can you imagine that? Brothers with 13 years age difference and they both served in the same war (there were more of their brothers, dad, and step-dad that served, but they've all passed long ago)

Yes, this was Veteran's Day - a Day of Rememberance, but to me this was a very special day of gratitude and personal reflection.

Cristo.....with your family history, I know this is a special day for you and you seem to be very active. The VA hospital and staff are extremely important...glad to see you thought of them.

Thanks!

For me....ARMY..1984-94 engineering

ARMY..1995-05 National Guard engineering

ARMY..2006-present.........Army Nurse Corp

Not only serving..but, also caring for those who serve!

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!!

AND INFINITE THANKS FOR THOSE WHO SERVED....whether in war or in peace to keep our Country FREE.

And what it revealed was stunning.

In 2005, for example, in just those 45 states, there were at least 6,256 suicides among those who served in the armed forces. Thats 120 each and every week, in just one year.

Dr. Steve Rathbun is the acting head of the Epidemiology and Biostatistics Department at the University of Georgia. CBS News asked him to run a detailed analysis of the raw numbers that we obtained from state authorities for 2004 and 2005.

It found that veterans were more than twice as likely to commit suicide in 2005 than non-vets. (Veterans committed suicide at the rate of between 18.7 to 20.8 per 100,000, compared to other Americans, who did so at the rate of 8.9 per 100,000.)

One age group stood out. Veterans aged 20 through 24, those who have served during the war on terror. They had the highest suicide rate among all veterans, estimated between two and four times higher than civilians the same age. (The suicide rate for non-veterans is 8.3 per 100,000, while the rate for veterans was found to be between 22.9 and 31.9 per 100,000.) "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/13/cbsnews_investigates/main3496471.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3496471

#1: our pursuit in the Middle East most certainly DOES have something to do with national security AND protecting the people of the United States. Because of the extraordinary (albeit imperfect) efforts of so many government agencies, military personnel, and indeed regular Americans, how many lives have been saved due to thwarted terrorist schemes since (and including!) 9/11? (That's a rhetorical question.)

#2: There is no doubt that our brave, assiduous, and highly-trained military personnel work their asses off and don't receive the level of support (of any type) that they deserve. SO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND VETS!

#3: Everyone's entitled to his/her opinion - that's one of the freedoms being protected every damn day by our men & women of the military. So please stop disrespecting them - those who come into these pages to read and write, and those everywhere around the globe.

OK - I'm ready for you to start hating on me now. Brang it!!! (or, perhaps, you might agree?)

Well your #1 question is indeed a rhetorical one. How many schemes have been avorted by the invasion of Iraq? How many Iraqi terrorists attacked the US? How many WMDs were found in Iraq? Answer is NONE.

Now how many innocent Iraqis were tortured, abused, got their houses wrecked, got widowed or died since the invasion? (That's a rhetorical question too).

Two reasons for the higher suicide rate:

1)Style of life - Military at times is so fast paced in some areas, it is like living on an adrenaline rush for 'x' number of years. Then you get out, and go to civilian life. Now you are removed from a regimented, fast-paced, gung-ho, find-a-way-or-make-a-way, life style where you learn to depend on (and be depended upon) teams from 'ranger-buddy' to fire team to squad to next week - nothing. It is all stripped away from you, and you have to figure out your entire life again. From waking up, dressing, eating to when to go to bed. I had difficulties with the transition, and even now after being completely out for years - sometimes long for that type of life again. I don't know, maybe there is something warped in my brain (quite possible) that going with my team into anything from a field 'war-game', bar brawl, full-contact-no-second-place-combat and coming back out again you feel more "alive" than you can possibly imagine. It is difficult to let that go sometimes.

2)Transition back to 'ordinary' - While in the service, you have the chance to join a small group of people, that while the duties at times are tedious (intermixed with short times of *really* intense stress) you have a feeling and an outlook of "making a difference in the world" That somehow - what you do today - can truly redeem something. Honor isn't a byword at some once a year team building bullshit session. You really get to know duty as a way of life, because your life, your teams/crew's lives depend on everyone doing their duty and be around men and women who feel the same. Then you get to transition to a civilian world in which you are just another body - you want fries with that ? Hopefully you get the point.

My transition fully back to a 'silly-villian' world ? Made immeasurably easier by being able to talk to veterans who had already done so. Mainly - my family - because (and if you get offended here...well...tough) If you haven't served in some of the capacities that you find in the military - you just won't understand. Some of the folks not having that huge advantage - yes - I could see why they might go the suicide direction.

I lived quite a bit of life in the military. Measuring in years doesn't do it justice, you measure it by experience. I often tell people that ask, it is a part of my life that I wouldn't trade for anything, wouldn't change a single thing, and damn sure would not want to go through again.

Point of pride in my family - every male on my Dad's side has served. Mainly Navy (I have 10 years there) but a scattering of Army (my other 10) and Marines thrown in. This includes WWi, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, and Gulf War II. Any time I earned rank - what was pinned on belonged to a father, uncle and once my grandfather's rank insignias.

This year - as I have for quite a number of years, I take my trumpet down to play Taps. I just can't deal with it being done from a cd-player when I am around.

That is quite simply a retarded statement.

While Mike may indeed be entitled to his opinion, I'm equally entitled to say his opinion on this particular matter doesn't amount to shit. Even the most casual of observers can see that the interests of U.S. national security are clearly involved.

(Mike says: ''How many schemes have been avorted by the invasion of Iraq? How many Iraqi terrorists attacked the US? How many WMDs were found in Iraq? Answer is NONE.'' Uh... Mike... tell us exacty how you know that answer? For all you know 10,000 lives MAY have been saved. For all you know... which ain't much, lol.)

I love this place!!

I have a few very simple questions for you. I would like to see your concise answers posted here. Don't prevaricate, no evasions, just answer the questions as posed:

1) Saddam clearly showed the capacity and willingness to invade other sovereign countries (Kuwait), to gas people living in his country that had different idealogical backgrounds (Kurds) and to suppress violently those who were of a different sect than his Sunni ruling party in order to maintain dictatorship (Shittes)

Question - how would you have handled this, to prevent further criminal acts by Saddam ? You may assume you are the duly elected leader of any of the world's major powers. I would especially like to see your answer from the position of being the U.S. President.

2)Moving away from Iraqi in particular and moving to "Islamic Fundamentalists" I won't pick a specific group, suffice to add your own dramatis personae - you have a group of people who under the sway of a "religious leader" (use your own title here) are taught that the surest way to heaven and all those virgins is to kill you. By whatever means it can be done. And the more of your friends they take out, the better. Let's say it is because you are white. Or you have "white" as your last name. Whatever, they want you dead. And they will suicide themselves *gladly* to do it. Let's say that the "religious leader" knows he can make a dramatic scene of it, thereby earning himself some measure of power that he inwardly lusts for. He wants to be a 'world leader' (read - dominate the world) and has an ample supply of money and thousands of willing subjects under his control that will ecstatically blow themselves up, or even, perhaps, crash a few planes to kill as many of you and your friends as possible.

Question - What would you do to convince them NOT to kill you, and to turn away from such tactics forever. You must accomplish this in one year. Go.

3)There is a country pursuing nuclear technology. Let's call it the Glorious Republic of Glowistan. Now, the type they want COULD be used for either 1)clean safe power 2)nuclear bombs Glowistan is ruled by a party who has been known in the past to be somewhat militant towards some of their neighbors (justified or not - doesn't matter here, just that they have been) have not always been forthcoming on real intentions - ie, been known to lie. They are ruled by a leader who believes a neighboring country - Seaistan - should be bombed off the face of the map because they cook their food the wrong way and has stated such on many occasions. You suspect (although cannot prove) that this leader may have a taste for a bit more world dominance, and certainly more regional influence to do some 'territorial expanding"

Question - Using only diplomatic means, within the current world structure (ie, the U.N.) contain this situation. While you may not resort to military invasion by any country, you may assume you are the rightful leader of one of the Security Councils' major members. Choose any country, but as before, would be interested to see your posture as U.S. President.

There...three simple questions. Let's see what you can come up with. And if you feel you cannot adequately answer these questions - kindly shut the hell up.

Mike, can you state, with 100% certainty, that the U.S. invasion of Iraq has not thwarted ANY potential terrorist attacks on the U.S.A.?

(NOTE: I cannot state with 100% certainty that the invasion HAS thwarted any potential attacks, just for the record. I'd like to think so, but I cannot make the statement.)

QUESTION 1: When Saddam started invading other nations (starting with Iran in 1981) he's got the full support of the USA . Then when he invaded the WRONG country (kuwait) he was attacked by the USA. At the end of the Kuwait war, the UN (under the impulse of the USA) voted military and economic sunctions that lasted more than 10 years and left the country, including its military, completely wrecked. Actually that's why the Iraqi army was defeated within days after the invasion. As President of a Super Power, my concern would be if Iraq has the potential means of threatening its neighbors. Is Iraq capable of it and using which means??? The Clinton administration insured the Iraqi regime was completely isolated. The attack and the Invasion was, in this view, completely useless and most importantly dangerous for the regions power balance (it gave Iran the possibility to disturb the unity of Iraq through Chiite guerillas and provoke the civil war we all now behold)

"I cannot state with 100% certainty that the invasion HAS thwarted any potential attacks, just for the record. I'd like to think so, but I cannot make the statement."

Well in that case invading ANY country in the world would be justified.

I can understand that your understanding of politics is somehow...laborious but i very much enjoy your self-proclamations of ignorance and stupidity here. After all that's how we all learn.

*With Love* Michael White

So - once again - do not waste my time with your whining and crying about how badly current or past administrations have handled things. The questions clearly stated, if you bothered to read them with anything above a 6th grade comprehension on what YOU proposed to do, assuming you were the leader of whatever country you choose.

So far, I would give your homework a failing grade. Try again, this time read the questions and answer them as they are posed to you.

Question 1 - your answer should start with "I, being the President of the United States at a time preceeding the first (or second) Gulf War would have....<insert the rest of your answer here>

Question 2 - your answer should start with "I, being the Leader of <insert country of choice> would take the following actions <insert your answer here>

Question 3 - I, as President of <insert your country of choice here> would handle the problem of Glowistan by <insert your answer here>

Note: At no point does current administration names come into play. YOU are the current administration.

p.s. - most English Comp 101 professors would have failed you by now.

Do you really need this formulation to understand that these posts were answers to your questions?

anyway...I can make it that way:

#1: I President of the US decide not to launch a war on Iraq

#2: I President of the US decide to enforce and develop cooperation with all willing countries to arrest and handle out terrorists to American services. I also decide to handle out terrorists who work in the CIA to the countries where they are being prosecuted for acts of terror. I decide to launch military acts to arrests and prevent terrorists to plan attacks against the American soil in countries where governments refuse to effectively cooperate.

#3: I President of the US will handle the problem of the Irani nuclear program by starting DIRECT and OFFICIAL talks with the Irani government in order to recreate and enforce the means of the protection of the Irani soil and defend the stability of the region. There will be no need for the Iranis to own the bomb when they will count on our assurance to protect the integrity of their nation.

Why don't you start Geo-Politics are Us?

LMAO

2 strike-outs so far. You know, for the one telling the rest of us that we are stupid, you are not putting forth anything impressive thus far. So, let's review your progress using your second answer set:

"#1: I President of the US decide not to launch a war on Iraq"

The question asked was "How would you have handled this, to prevent further criminal acts by Saddam ?"

In your answer, you state you would not launch a war on Iraq. Since you mention no other forms of containment, political sanctions or the like, Saddam is free to do as he likes, including invade other countries, further suppress any non-Sunni faction, and in general act with impunity.

Final grade - F

Reason - failed to provide any rational means to accomplish the goal set out in the actual question. Chances of success cannot be evaluated, because no potential solutions were presented.

Question 2 - What would you do to convince them NOT to kill you, and to turn away from such tactics forever. You must accomplish this in one year. Go.

So - you will arrest and prosecute terrorists in countries that cooperate with the U.S. So, terrorists in Switzerland are screwed. You pretty much plan to gut the CIA by handing our agents over to foreign countries to prosecute/execute - thereby completely destroying your spying/counter-terror capability, and ensuring you will have no agent willing to do actual "agent" work to find and track terrorist cells who *plan* on attacking American soil. BUT....for countries that don't play ball - you send in the military.

HHHHmmm... So you would have us invading Iraq, Iran, arguably Saudi, Sudan, Yemen, China, Korea. Wow...hope you bumped up your military budget. Folks are going to be busy there.

Final grade - C

Reason - Had you not decided to basically turn over your best CIA agents to foreign countries, this answer would have probably been at least a B, if not an A. Military is good for capturing/destroying targets, not so good at the whole "covert intel" thing to plan the strikes. Other than that, I kinda like your answer - Once you demonstrated that you would indeed ruthlessly invade countries that sponsor terrorist actions - you probably wouldn't have to invade them all. Although, I would get the feeling you would have quite a few peaceniks in the U.S. calling for your impeachment, calling you a war-monger and such. Kinda like they do Bush now.

Question 3 - Using only diplomatic means, within the current world structure (ie, the U.N.) contain this situation.

No one mentioned Iran here..it was "Glowistan" tsk tsk. But I am sure that was a faux pas on your part, so will let that little nuance slide.

Your answer assumes that Iran -er - Glowistan - will act responsibly and honorably at all times. It also does not mention any form of containment should ruling personalities decide your diplomatic-only solutions show weakness and timidity, encouraging them to embark upon a little judicious empire building. I am surprised you did not go through channels of the U.N. Security Council, unless you have come to believe they are ineffectual. No matter, will give you credit for that anyway - it likely saved you some time.

Final Grade - C (includes skipping the ineffectual U.N. process credit)

Reason - Your answer does not address the possibility/likelihood of a ruler using this to become a regional dictator and tyrant. Most of the world neither knows, or cares about "Queensbury Rules" and playing nice. You failed to mention how you might build a coalition of military force of any kind, or how to address a leader with expansionist policies.

So, a F, and two Cs. Honestly a bit better than I expected you to do, and I *almost* really liked your second answer. You showed some promise of the ruthlessness needed to effectively rule and govern men.

Of course, anyone else who cares to can rate your answers, and apply their own grades.

I really love this place!!! Not a single argument up there was challenged. Discussing politics with you folks is so entertaining!!

Why don't you start Geo-Politics are Us?

LMAO

(yes again)

Just keep on thinking you're more intelligent than everyone else. I find it humorous.

P.S. - you must not have even read my question, yet you pretend to have answered it? You must have a reading comprehension problem, dolt.

YOU and only YOU have da'POWER!

Get back in here and delete about half of these bull'chit posts in honor of our veterans!

Oh "forum creator" please-do, that voo-doo, that you-do so well!

Thank You to all the veterans past and present.

Quiethunter, I beieve that you hit the nail on the head as to why readjustment to stateside duty and civilian life is so hard. I've been working with my son to help him adjust. He's an adrenalin junky to begin with and after three tours in Iraq in a two and a half year period he's having a problem or two. He's got a beautiful wife and new baby, so everyone is praying and keeping their fingers crossed. He just recieved a date for airborne school in January, so maybe they can keep him active somewhat......

Lisa....looks to me like you're gonna be a welcome addition around here.

Freezin, you've always been a breath of fresh air....thanks for serving and contributing....

Wise decision, respectable.

and yes, Freezin IS a breath of fresh air

(it's so true robbie, mostie always posts that you're a breath-man)

Who said rednecks aren't funny?

LMAO

just a few of you self-proclaimed french-cucksockers

"I cannot state with 100% certainty that the invasion HAS thwarted any potential attacks, just for the record. I'd like to think so, but I cannot make the statement."

Well in that case invading ANY country in the world would be justified.

I can understand that your understanding of politics is somehow...laborious wink but i very much enjoy your self-proclamations of ignorance and stupidity here. After all that's how we all learn.

*With Love* Michael White

(Are you really Cimm in disguise?)

And... one of those visits a few years ago, one of the nurses pointed out, "what about us?"

So I added that the next time I went.

"there is more to healing than just medicine"

like, um........ sponge-baths?

pretty much sums things up.

Oh Rickster....so, so, true! and only those few who know the true meaning of serving..and are willing to write that blank check are worthy of our HONOR and PRAISE!

*****REMEMBER OUR TROOPS AND VETS FOR CHRISTMAS*****

even the smallest tokins of appreciation make a world of difference in the lives of those who SERVE!

Army 1985-1987 Combat Engineer

NC ARNG Oct 2001-present M1A1 tank crewman

aaahhhh....reactivation...that sucks, especially since now you're ready for that big NASCAR team....keep in touch.

I just packed up a HUGE care package to a soldier I know in Iraq, including a Superman kite, the game "Pigs" (dice-ish kinda thing), paper, pens & envelopes (to write me back), tons of snacks, mini-toiletries, and a few magazines, including the new issue of Maxim, but I cut out a pic of my face & pasted it over Megan Fox's (subliminal messaging, heh heh)

I }> heroes

As for the aforementioned care package - all received intact and the Superman kite didn't even get shot down!

"How would you have handled this, to prevent further criminal acts by Saddam ?"

Saddam was about to comply when the 19th res was read...or 20th, or 21st

Even Saddam admitted that he postured about like he HAD some nuclear program. He's as much to blame as anyone else is including the United Nation and European Countries.

Theres only roughly DOZENS of other political forums and the option of creating one yourself Mike.

The American Soldier is not American Foreign Policy.

If you want to take issue with our Foreign Policy and how we seem to shift the goalposts in Iraq to declare victory, Yeah I find it lacking.

Grateful free people, represent, represent!

Thanks to all vets past and present, and I'd like to say thanks in particular to one I used to think was a bit spacey... my gentle Uncle Ken, who was a medic in WWII and had a handful of purple hearts... that he never mentioned. You would never guess he was a soldier.

You rocked, Uncle Ken.

Quiet Hunter he thinks he is so smart grading papers, who helped you with that dumbass? Quiet your lack of brains really shows, you speak as if the Vatican, the pope etc etc is the only one corrupt. News flash horseboy have you looked at all the crooked churches in this country? Why did you take your pic down Quiet? I guess you got tired of me making fun of you on your horse or maybe someone was coming to kick your sorry redneck ass. P.S. Germany still hates america some dumbass emailed me on mingles and said the germans are our friends, yeah right

Dont ruin this thread with name calling and hatred please...

And, I want to give a shout out and LOVE to all Veteran's young & old who have risked their lives for our Freedom. daddy, my uncles, my brothers, my sister, many counsins, and nephews... your work and lives have not & will not be in vain.

You will always be remembered cousin Johnny (who recently died in Iraq on 08/28/08).

I'm proud to be an American, BABY! (thanks for bringing this thread up Lisa)

Glenard Peterson US Army/Coast Guard WW2 Grandfather

Harold Thompson US Army WW2 Grandfather

Ralph Peterson US Army Vietnam Uncle

Jerry Thompson US Navy Cuban missle crisis Father

Jerry Thompson US Army Panama Myself

Eddie Peterson US Army Cousin

Frank Sylvia US Air Force Uncle

members of the Armed Forces are not free to decide when or where to go, they are forced to obey whether it is good or bad, whether their 'mission' is legal or illegal, whether their task is to invade or not, etc

it is the politicians who give it a bad name. i have always respected the great country USA, their citizens and their soldiers. they really defeated the Germans during WW2 (had it not been for it we Europeans would be speaking German, or at least with a German accent), it is true that USA have fought for freedom in the past.

however, i am not so sure that they are fighting for freedom right now if i think of Iraq. it is a pity that some politicians like Bush give the US Armed Forces a bad name fighting for business, oil, military contracts, money, etc and not fighting for freedom, not fighting for America really to stand, preserve and secure what your forefathers stood for.

if i were American i would of course celebrate Veterans day to honour them, but i would try to celebrate a new day as well, the day that some traitors like Bush spit on what the forefathers stood for.

Step right up.....buy as many as you want using any name you want.......hehehe

Rep, check that site out, I got a copy of mine, and it came within 12 days. It's free, also. You just have to fax a sheet with your signature on it, and you can get the sheet from the site and print it out.

o looked into thy VFW cris once before, but what little we have here is not worth it.

Why is this day special to Australians?

At 11 am on 11 November 1918 the guns of the Western Front fell silent after more than four years continuous warfare. The allied armies had driven the German invaders back, having inflicted heavy defeats upon them over the preceding four months. In November the Germans called for an armistice (suspension of fighting) in order to secure a peace settlement. They accepted the allied terms of unconditional surrender.

The 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month attained a special significance in the post-war years. The moment when hostilities ceased on the Western Front became universally associated with the remembrance of those who had died in the war. This first modern world conflict had brought about the mobilisation of over 70 million people and left between 9 and 13 million dead, perhaps as many as one-third of them with no known grave. The allied nations chose this day and time for the commemoration of their war dead.

On the second anniversary of the armistice in 1920 the commemoration was given added significance when it became a funeral, with the return of the remains of an unknown soldier from the battlefields of the Western Front. Unknown soldiers were interred with full military honours in Westminster Abbey in London and at the Arc de Triumph in Paris. The entombment in London attracted over one million people within a week to pay their respects at the unknown soldier's tomb. Most other allied nations adopted the tradition of entombing unknown soldiers over the following decade.

In Australia on the 75th anniversary of the armistice in 1993 Remembrance Day ceremonies again became the focus of national attention. The remains of an unknown Australian soldier, exhumed from a First World War military cemetery in France, were ceremonially entombed in the Memorial's Hall of Memory. Remembrance Day ceremonies were conducted simultaneously in towns and cities all over the country, culminating at the moment of burial at 11 am and coinciding with the traditional two minutes' silence. This ceremony, which touched a chord across the Australian nation, re-established Remembrance Day as a significant day of commemoration.

One traditional recitation on ANZAC Day is the Ode, the fourth stanza of the poem For the fallen by Laurence Binyon (18691943). Binyon was the assistant keeper of prints and drawings at the British Museum, and the author of several volumes of verse. For the fallen was first published in the Times (London) in 1914 and later in many anthologies of war verse. It was selected in 1919 to accompany the unveiling of the London Cenotaph and, like so many memorial traditions, passed into common use across the Commonwealth. Its use on ANZAC Day might have originated with the Queensland ANZAC Day Commemoration Committee, which placed it on the cover of a collection of sermons and addresses for ANZAC Day published in 1921. It was also used at the laying of the Inauguration Stone at the Memorial in 1929.

The most well-known lines are:

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning

We will remember them.

Lest We Forget

In Flanders fields the poppies blow

Between the crosses, row on row,

That mark our place: and in the sky

The larks, still bravely singing, fly

Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago

We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,

Loved and were loved, and now we lie

In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:

To you from failing hands we throw

The torch; be yours to hold it high.

If ye break faith with us who die

We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

In Flanders fields.

John McCrae (18721918)

we lost 63,000 and then at least another 10,00 within 5-10 years from their physical and mental wounds.

and that not long after we had become a nation in 1901

if you want to read more ..

i work at the Australian War Memorial ..an amazing place indeed ..

www.awm.gov.au

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