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I am going to advance the theory that men who have had fewer lovers lasting longer periods of time are better lovers then men who've had many women. My point is that it takes a GOOD lover and Good man to please a woman for many years then to seduce a woman for one night only. I believe there is a misconception pervade in the media.

Discuss :P

Man30

Your theory is flawed.(like most of your posts) ......

Studs as they are known have and obtain Women at will, who wants to wake up and have the same coffee everyday?......"Better Lovers" are always in demand by better younger more attractive Women.....going from one Woman to the next leaving them satisfied,

take GenneralBubba for instance..........Women flock to him.

I think it has a lot to do with your moral code..and your partners moral code.

I agree with advman.

While "loose" men and women might want to do everyone anytime and they may have a hell of a time doing it..

The ones who take time to learn each other in and out will have the more fufilling relationship all around sexually and otherwise... IMO

While maybe the two can mix the two, you won't please each other as much.

L7

unless you've had a couple of one night stands..............one can't really judge.............LOL!!!!!!!!!

Better lovers or better sexually?

There is a big difference.

A lover is never one night.

One nighters are friends with bennies.

Which just mean sexual friend.

More often I think it's sexual acquaintance.

But anywho, Lovers are only long term. So naturally they are better lovers than hired guns.

Taders?????????

have you even ever had a one nighter???????

LOL...........

"have you even ever had a one nighter???????"

"ever even"

As if it is something of value.

When I was younger I had my moments.

They came and went, so to speak.

I have not seen the value in that line of thinking for about 12 or 13 years now.

Any idiot can have sex. Love is another matter.

That takes time and a willingness to invest yourself.

Have you ever even made love?

Now run along an pop one off.

I think its egotistic for a man to even describe "better lover" unless of course your doing it with yourself. this is for a woman to answer really.

No no guys, stop the flaming. I value your opinions on the subject but don't want this forum hijacked.

Scorpio, I agree totally and I am hoping some females will weigh in in this issue. Please gals help us out.

To begin with let me say this: NOBODY is a natural-born lover. I don't care who they are. Being a good lover is a LEARNED SKILL that you have to practice. That is a total misconception, whether you had many lovers or very few and been in long lasting relationships. If you suck you suck, whether in any kind of relationship. Lovemaking is a art, and a skill and not everybody is good at it.

Sorry to tell you this - there is no such "technique". That's just not the way women are wired. I know that many guys SAY they have such a technique. Unfortunately, it is just bullshit,

Here's why: every woman is vastly different from everyone else. If you find one thing that "worked" on one woman it isn't necessarily going to work on another. Further, you'll find that something that worked today, won't work tomorrow. Further still, something you may try today that she yelled at you for, she's may be begging you to do tomorrow. It's all just a woman thing - go figure

I believe I learned something from each different girl I was with, especially in regards to 'what works for one girl doesn't always work for another'.

I've always been VERY open with sexual communications and trying to coax out of a girl what it is that she really likes (interestingly enough they often times don't even know).

So I do not prescribe to the idea that fewer lovers makes for a better lover. I feel that the more 'techniques' one learns from different lovers may possibly make them a better lover.

No right or wrong answer.

Manhattan - you said a lot of excellent things there and tck, good discussion.

"Further still, something you may try today that she yelled at you for, she's may be begging you to do tomorrow. It's all just a woman thing - go figure"

FINALLY !!! A woman who admits they can be contrary creatures !!! YES !!!

(or if it is a good night - Yes Yes YES YES YESYESYES!)

contrary creatures??? you mean we like different things at different times?? if that is to much trouble for you....then you are not a 'better lover'......50 or 5000 lovers....it's all about paying attention to the one you are with. i don't think numbers are that important. the good ones are trainable anyway

LOL, I agree with Manny!

For the most part I'd agree with Tck. Communication, beyond an Oooo or an Aaaaah, sure can help.

And while it's nice if you're "Lovers", the ultimate goal is having some great mutual gratification.

I don't think that one a night stand, drunken sex should even be counted. Now premeditated sex.... that's a whole different thing! LOL

"To begin with let me say this: NOBODY is a natural-born lover. I don't care who they are. Being a good lover is a LEARNED SKILL that you have to practice. That is a total misconception, whether you had many lovers or very few and been in long lasting relationships. If you suck you suck, whether in any kind of relationship. Lovemaking is a art, and a skill and not everybody is good at it."

Lover? You mean sex partner. HUGE difference.

How "good" someone is or isn't is relative. One persons fantastic sex partner is another's boor. Man/woman makes no difference.

The true quality of your experience lies in weather or not there is actual love present in the first place. Making love is time and attention willingly given and recieved, no demands, no expectations other than the idea that you will share together because of love. Short of that, you are not participating in love.

The best tool for good love making I could suggest to anyone is first of all being in love. Second would be to take massage classes together. Learning the value of touch from head to foot. That kind of homework will lead to nothing but good.

Ths quote from Woody Aleen says it best----

Love might be the answer, but until you find the answer, sex raises some pretty interesting questions.

TBT WTF are you doing ????

You belong in the more serious forums, helping to solve this country's probs...

Instead, WHERE do I find you? In HERE w/ all of the dwadlers!

Now get back to where you belong before I tell yer wife to grab you by the ear and do somethin!

Besides I'm the only thing thats sexy.. the rest of you are just wannabes...!!!

"Love might be the answer, but until you find the answer, sex raises some pretty interesting questions."

lol

Yeah, I finally REALLY got lucky

"TBT WTF are you doing ????"

Baddd tader! Bad, bad, bad! lol

Hey, love make yah stupid like that. ;P

"Now get back to where you belong before I tell yer wife to grab you by the ear and do somethin!"

He'll be back where he belongs in a few hours. He loves it when I **** and **** and **** his ears

When just a brush or a look makes your breath catch in your throat, when you can read each others thoughts by a glance into their eyes, when your whole day, everything you do together is foreplay ... when preparing dinner together is a sensual act. You share dinner, clean up and can't hardly stand it any more. Then you bathe together and massage head to toe... your mind is on another plateau. You have come to know each others bodies as intimately as you know your own. You have been making love for hours ... sex just makes it's way in as part of the whole lovemaking experience. <---This is what we share. Extraordinary "lovemaking".

Can you get this level of "lovemaking" by being a 'stud' or a 'studette' (LOL) and taking many lovers? IMHO no.

You can have incredible sex for a night, then what do you do during that awkward time after you are done? I wonder how many relationships and/or quick marriages are based a lustful libido to end in divorce shortly because at some point you go 'huh?' We have nothing else in common and the sex was good but the LOVING INTIMACY that is learned with time is not there to enhance it and keep it alive.

Tater? What time are you leaving? LOL

*****the anticipation builds*****

***"When just a brush or a look makes your breath catch in your throat, when you can read each others thoughts by a glance into their eyes, when your whole day, everything you do together is foreplay ... when preparing dinner together is a sensual act. You share dinner, clean up and can't hardly stand it any more. Then you bathe together and massage head to toe... your mind is on another plateau. You have come to know each others bodies as intimately as you know your own. You have been making love for hours ... sex just makes it's way in as part of the whole lovemaking experience. <---This is what we share. Extraordinary "lovemaking"."***

Bingo! Mostie and I have the same thing, except for the shared dinner thingie...she loves the domestic kitchen stuff and never lets me help lol. God I love that woman!

Ohhhh, maaaannnn!!!! This is all love stuff and it's MUSH!!!! ppfffffttttt!!!

Haha, you'll read it, Cimm...and you'll LIKE it! (I'm going to forward you some love letters I wrote to Mostie, and the next time you jump I want you to read one on the way down, lol).

I hate it when he does that to me... i just hate it!!!!

Let my suffering be a lesson to all of you folks.. It's better not to post anything and instead, just walk away and quietly stick your finger your throat.. beats trying to do it in the air while you have to read.. love junk stuff!

LMAO!

Don't worry Cimm, as long as the earth's core still has hot steel in motion, the gravitational forces will keep that stuff off of you.

pppfffftttt!!!

I should have known the moment I did't see any dancing girls in here, that I was in the wrong room

mush musH muSH mUSH MUSH

How many times did it take you to find the right person? How many marriages? How many relationships that you thought that this was the one. You were in many of our shoes before, dating others or being married to someone else, unless you belonged to a the royal order of monks or a convent.

4, 1, 3.

Actually if you include simple dating, have a time frame that includes going back as far as high school, many moons ago for me, lol and include 'crushes', the first question in innumerable. More seriously I think 4 is accurate.

***Ths quote from Woody Aleen says it best----

Love might be the answer, but until you find the answer, sex raises some pretty interesting questions. ***

I always like a good Woody Allen qoute. Such as I'm not afraid of dying, I just dont want to be there when it happens.

I'm not gonna pass on adding to or asking Manny or any other woman this coz Manny hit on something I think I would like to put forth. And besides, anyone who prosposes Spanking gets my attention right away.

Plain and simple, while I thought that sex was really hot blooded as a younger person, I find it more satisfying as time goes by and those raging hormones arent so much dictating my actions or technique.

Whenever I have gotten involved intimately, I always like to open the subject up before hand to at least get out the idea that the first time doesnt have to be magical and awe inspiring. If its good, it can get better. Kick the tires and drive the car, you dont need to check the oil or look under every hood right away. Just have an honest trusting encounter and have some fun. I really believe its more important how you feel going in(no pun inteneded) and how comfortable you feel afterwards that leads to the relaxation it takes to just let it all hang out in the future. EH????

Why? Because despite what some might say....when two bodies are connected, its having sex but, what one feels should be love making. That doesnt come right away because you cant know every little dial she wants turn or bitten anyway.

If one finds that even after being involved for a long time and still going wow , that was great , then youre probably still on the learning curve.

Ok, now I suppose im being egotistical and a hypocrite for posting but Im ok with it.

***Further still, something you may try today that she yelled at you for, she's may be begging you to do tomorrow. It's all just a woman thing - go figure***

Like hair pulling???

***Ths quote from Woody Aleen says it best----

Love might be the answer, but until you find the answer, sex raises some pretty interesting questions. ***

I always like a good Woody Allen qoute. Such as I'm not afraid of dying, I just dont want to be there when it happens.

I'm not gonna pass on adding to or asking Manny or any other woman this coz Manny hit on something I think I would like to put forth. And besides, anyone who prosposes Spanking gets my attention right away.

Plain and simple, while I thought that sex was really hot blooded as a younger person, I find it more satisfying as time goes by and those raging hormones arent so much dictating my actions or technique.

Whenever I have gotten involved intimately, I always like to open the subject up before hand to at least get out the idea that the first time doesnt have to be magical and awe inspiring. If its good, it can get better. Kick the tires and drive the car, you dont need to check the oil or look under every hood right away. Just have an honest trusting encounter and have some fun. I really believe its more important how you feel going in(no pun inteneded) and how comfortable you feel afterwards that leads to the relaxation it takes to just let it all hang out in the future. EH????

Why? Because despite what some might say....when two bodies are connected, its having sex but, what one feels should be love making. That doesnt come right away because you cant know every little dial she wants turn or bitten anyway.

If one finds that even after being involved for a long time and still going wow , that was great , then youre probably still on the learning curve.

Ok, now I suppose im being egotistical and a hypocrite for posting but Im ok with it.

***Further still, something you may try today that she yelled at you for, she's may be begging you to do tomorrow. It's all just a woman thing - go figure***

Like hair pulling???

I was a monk for about 8 years. Before that I had met 3 I was serious about but 2 were not. Fairly short to do's. "Friends" was not happening. One was a bit more than a year over the internet but when we finally spent time together I found there were things about her I just could not accept. None ended bad. All three were long distance so I never have dated anyone in a normal sense. Hazards of living where I do.

I don't know the answer, maybe because I'm so inexperienced? But I'm planning on doing a little research!

Bye!