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We were the ones who would wipe out world hunger.
We led the march for equality and made war on discrimination.
We said that Vietnam would be the last time we fought someone else's battles.
Is one out of four the best we can do?
Yes we uprooted the establishment and provided a future generation to give new life to that upheaval!
Yes, we are working to wipe out world hunger, we are more involved due to our Baby Booming Voices with becoming a much "greener" nation!
I think the parade of equality and discrimination is more than telling in our current political candidates!
As far as battles, the ones on the homefront (with our own dysfunctional families) keep us strong!!!
It's we are...from this point forward! We are done worrying about the career track and raising our children to continue in our paths! WE are now ready to tackle all those issues and more with the wisdom of maturity and strength of that wisdom! Didnt you ever hear of that true to life saying...life begins at 50!!!!
Rollo I hate to spoil your fun but compared to the young men fighting the nazis in the ghetto of Warsaw, or the young Russians dying in Stalingrad, your generation didn't seem to show much sacrifices.
This being said, your generation did create an "excess of democracy" forcing the system to react and conservative think tanks to multiply. When the young, the colored, the ever-oppressed start to participate and raise their voices in the public arena, they end-up being overwhelmed and their voice covered by the system's puppets. Bourgeois democracy is only here to serve the "substential people".
What happened to you, you ask? You have been defeated. Sorry for that.
Well first off.... this isn't fun.
Secondly, I'm with Patton regarding letting some dumb poor bastard die for his country.
If not for Stalin the events you mentioned might not have happened. He sold the poles down the river and gave the green light to Hitler.
Sleepless -
As Rabbi Silverman has stated: "Life begins when the dog dies and the kids move away!"
(Nice muskie by the way!)
The protests of Vietnam are still felt today. It was, in my mind, the first time in history, where the youth as a whole, thought for itself and spoke out, instead of being led by the nose through blind belief in our leaders. At the same time, Viet Nam was (in my mind) the first "wrong" war that we fought. And we saw that.
And the public, vocal discontent of the youth, over a bogus war, brought down a president and the deaths of 50,000 men continues to cast a pall over future military endeavors by our country.
Did we "uproot the establishment", that mythical "organization", which can (I think) be loosely defined as the corporate influence on politics and the rule of law? No. Not even close. That's because, in my opinion, it is the sum collaboration (if you will) of a logical mindset, that has existed since the beginning of ancient history. It is an "organism" unto itself that mutates and changes. Born out of the 2nd World War, the Military Industrial Complex is a manifestation of it and was fueled by Viet Nam while it fueled our economy.
LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and both Bush's, all personified "The Establishment". And where did the first protesters (besides Tom Hayden) against the "Establishment", go after Vietnam? Some of them were trying to figure out how to make even more money on an even bigger dope deal.
We were never about socialism. We were always about fairness and equality..
Discrimination: people were literally stoned, burned, hanged and shot, in an effort to remove that from The American Way of Life. And now we have "reverse discrimination" because of that fight for equality..
We were the generation that thought we could drive around the race track of life, more effeciently then our parents. And we had a better, faster, cooler "car" to do it in. But we still spun out, just at different turns in the road then the generation before us.
But now look at what's happening. People are concerned, en masse for the planet. People are embracing the concept of going "Green" because they understand what that means and they care. More people are interested in taking care of their health than ever before. Organic farming and foods has gone mainstream.
These movements got their impetus from our generation....
tsk tsk tsk!
Overall I would say it has alot to do with WAR, Wars have accelerated technology to the point that we can now and have for some time been able to extinguish the planet. From Gatlien guns of the Civil War* to the time man first took flight and shot at another pilot, to wanting to land on top of a moving ship and vice versa.
Oil, Every great Modern(meaning non- ancient)Empire from the Dutch to the Brits relied on a form of oil be it Whale oil to light lites in Europe or to replace Coal burning factories that supplied as much soot as heat.
Moreoever, we dont have an energy policy and until we do have one that moves away from oil as its mainstay for transportation we risk losing our Empire here.
But right now, what we're experiencing in crisis has long been coming.
Bush 41 called Ronnie Ray-gun's Trickle down theory "Voodoo Economics" running budgets defecits just to infuse cash into the economy with no real economic theory whatso-ever was and remeains stupid.
Reagan might be pardoned because he was fighting a Cold War and won with his ultimite and ingenius bluff. Then Came Bush41 and the heir apparent to the wall coming down and the need to use military force...so bump goes the military again and he lost the election coz......the economy Stupid!!!!!!
Had Bush 41 told the American public hey look Budget defecit feels good but its gonna hurt alot more later people might have gravitated to that idea.
To summarize mostly where this goes its DEBT DEBT DEBT !!!!!! Living in Exobia!!!!
Mikey Powers, youre situation over in Europe is going to get alot harder, even worse then here from everything I here. Europes economy runs about 9 months behind ours. The one things Americans arent going to do is go burning cars, least not yet anyways.
*I consider The Civil War the worst war in terms of lives and misery that still lingers today in the South in some spots. It was set up by our founders who werre not without their own flaws.
The point could refined to this, every declining nation has had to adapt to energy resources that diminished. Its the reason the French are so far along with Nuclear as a source. They dont have any abundant natural resource, so nuclear it is.
Its keen and its cutting edge.
CNBC on cable had an Eclusive last night on "The Nuclear Option" I thought for sure it was going to be skewed to the left as NBC is known these days for left Journalism.
It wasn't. Not at all!!!!
If y'all get the time search for the repeat on cable and watch. 21 cities in America are now perched to go Nuclear. Economies in those regions will boom. I saw conceptual drawings back in the 70's for at least 8 Nukes on that Articial Island.
I wouldnt be so gloomy....
Why arent the Candidates defining themselves specifically to the steps we need to take with energy?
If we can conquer Debt and Energy, IMHO that we can go on to better things. If we dont, then we'll go down in the history books as a once great nation.
Rollo, one thing I think we did wrong is the idea of exporting a democracy. Didnt work for the Greeks and I dont see it working for us. One of the reason my Grandfather came to this country from Greece was the Democracy.
I like to think that "Man is the measure of everything".
"Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.
I checked my profile and it still says 63.
It's probably a Mingles glitch since you quit hitting on me 4 years ago when I passed out of your age range ...LOL 
Funny Rollo*hands Mostie his glasses.
I believe people have the right to self determination and freedom from outside interference. another of this country's bumblings is meddling by the CIA and encouraging and promising people we would help them if they rose up. The Cubans who invaded Cuba, The Chechz and even the Kurds, who Bush 41 encouraged to overthrow Saddam only to be slaughtered by him.
"WE" also said "never again" about genocide. "we" as in this admin. declared that Darfur was a genocide and yet did nothing or little to this point. Even the UN didnt define Darfur as Genocide OR they would have by their UN Charter be obliged to go in and stop it. After Rwanda, I had some hope we might have the guts to actually do something besides complain about Chinas blocking of UN resolutions.
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i am a single head of household BY CHOICE...never married never will . never took alimony or child support, bore 4 children to 4 fathers whom are all my best friends still to this day. i have never paid into the system and have been an activist for 25 years. when Reagan was elected i left the country because i saw what was coming. and it has arrived. the consumer madness of the american capitalist philosophy was and is the downfall of the economy and the morality of the country.
i rebelled!!! we are not all complacent!!!
Good point Spart.
I have to believe if the founders were alive today, we would have another revolution.
The new policy is...."no dollar left behind"
Im new to this whole thing so forgive any off the subject talk, but has anybody noticed history at all? Has there ever been an end to poverty or war? I dont think there ever will be, all we can do is our best and treat others as we would like to be treated.
I live in South Africa, which is a difficult country to be in at the moment but I think, with time, we will come right. I still notice the beauty all around me and that nature goes on its course as it always has and that as we have punished the planet, it is payup time and we are about to be punished.
Any views on this anyone?
