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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/12/2008 11:21:32 PM
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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/12/2008 11:22:27 PM
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Ok I just cleaned up the no-post threads...
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tck_beachbum
12/12/2008 11:37:04 PM
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Chat room had 18 people in it tonight.

Great time, thanks for the features.

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Chai
12/13/2008 12:21:28 AM
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There are many more that are still there. All created by Tck_Beachbum. It may appear they have more than one post in them. In fact tck would just posted a simple "." in the posting space to bring his topic up to the top of the boards over and over again.

I still do not understand why this person is worth all the time you have had to spend cleaning up the mess he has made for you. You have a great site except for the one person that thinks (maybe he does?) he runs the place if you are here or not.

Thanks again for all your time.

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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/13/2008 12:32:20 AM
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Hi Chai - No one runs this place but me... believe me nobody gets any sort of preferential treatment. My stance on this is it needs to run in as automated a way as possible, and it needs to run on an unmoderated use-at-your-own-risk basis.

But that also means that I need to come up with features that facilitate this and prevent flooding and other bad forum behavior.

And until I can do that, it this means that nobody should run all over the forums making needless topics that are not meant for real conversation. So Tck, please don't continue doing that. And nobody else should either. When new people come into the forums I don't want the topics cluttered with garbage...

Thanks

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Purewater
12/13/2008 12:44:39 AM
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you might want to look at the same group of people who post and the comments they make if they don't like some one,that would run the average person off in aheart beat.
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notsoshyfarmboy
12/13/2008 12:49:19 AM
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Member since 12/13/2003
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I just wanted to say, thank you for the many great years you have had the site up and running. Must be a huge amount of work and just wanted to thank you for all of it!!
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Flowerpistol
12/13/2008 12:55:17 AM
Posts: 830
Member since 1/13/2008 12:30:33 AM
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Can I have a BIG star just like yours?
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toyman
12/13/2008 1:10:28 AM
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Member since 6/29/2005
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The simplest way to deal with this would be by allowing each person using the forums a total of (pick a number) say 3 topics...delete everything that has more than 50 posts..

what is the point of 1300 topics...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 2:42:40 AM
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obviously Mr. Mingles, you're a nice person and tck is a friend of yours. I appreciate the fact that you're a loyal friend.

but as you can see, tck is pretty much disliked by most of the regulars and many of the OG' in the forums and on your site in general and is the cause of many people to bug off of your site because of the bad experience that he likes to give people here.

Just put a "leash" on him and rein him in, maybe ban him from the forums and you'll create a nicer environment for people who visit your site.

while tck90210 might be an obscure onsite advertisement for you, the 10's of people that have bugged out of here (like freefall) because of him would have been your greatest salesmen, with the possibility of them posting an online review for mingles (which in turn acts as a back link to your site.. the kind that google likes).

And with sites like Yelp , CitySearch, Digg, Delicious, et.al., encouraging members to write reviews (which google uses and as you know, can effect your google ranking) about businesses online and elsewhere, the last thing you need is a jerk like tck depreciating the cost of clicks for advertisers on your site.

Limiting him to the chat room (if not removing him completely, which you wont' or can't do) will create a nice buzz about this site and raise your stats and clicks and relevance on google. And I know you know what I'm writing about.

to quote tck, he thinks that because he's your friend, that the forums "are his personal playground to do as he wants."

Either you want the hippest web site on the net that's going to set you apart and become a mecca for all of those who are sick of the money that their paying Match.com, Friendfinder, etc. and have them come here to click on you adsense campaign to make you a lot of money, or you're going to back up this self centered asshole tck and be nothing but a web site dump, for sophomoric characters like him to run rough shod over your customers in their pursuit of sadistic pleasure.

If you look carefully at your traffic rankings on Alexa, and compare that to the dates that tck was hitting the forums hard with his fake forum titles, you'll notice that your web site traffic dropped off.

Oddly enough Mingles spiked on Alexa when 362436 was here and then started dropping off with the reappearance of tck.

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Purewater
12/13/2008 2:54:58 AM
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my you should look at the people who have the most blocks against them and remove them form your sight . they are not healthy for your sight,they heve offended more poeple than you even have useing your forums,wounder why that is? they keep runing people off,they for the most part are the only ones useing your forums,just some thing to think about
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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 2:56:55 AM
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as a caveat for the minglers here: writing a review about this site only affects it's ranking if the url is included, because that acts as a back link. Google has a certain criteria about what is a relevant back link (they don't like purchased back links) And assuming that the review and link are posted on a site mentioning other dating sites, Google will then give it some kind of relevance in it's rankings. The more relevant back links, the higher the ranking by google and the higher the placement in the organic searches, which equates to raising the cost per click (aka pay per click) for sponsors advertising on this site. Online business that have advertising and banner ads, that have a high ranking can make up to .25 per click off of google adsense campaigns run on their sites.

When you do the math, it's hard to believe that someone would allow another person to take advantage of their loyalty as a friend and lower their profit margin by disrupting their site.

Esp allowing a nut case like tck to do that.

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Xethian
12/13/2008 5:39:04 AM
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Not sticking up for anyone. Appreciate all of y'all, and that you like to spend bunches of time in the forum. I'm not always right, and you're not always right. THis is merely what I see... I see several people who get really annoyed by one person. Then i see a couple of those people call the annoying person names. But in other posts, or even the same post expressing their annoyance, i see the couple people complain about the annoying person calling them names. Now, I'm sure y'all are sure about who started the name calling. That doesn't matter.

It ends when you stop doing it, not when you keep doing it.

Granted, i've been known to be a moron, asshole, pervert, shithead, etc. But then, i don't have hormone therapy, so they are just rampaging through me in a mental/emotional buffet of craziness. So ignore me and enjoy your misery.

My ex used to be like that. Would return to a miserable agonizing subject over and over again, rather than just moving on from this point righhhhhhhhhhht...... here.

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Keerok
12/13/2008 6:09:11 AM
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Xeth, it's been going on for six years and it never ends, he just finds someone else to wind up, like pedro for instance. Or someone with a disability like Rre, or finds a sensitive issue like hacking on peoples deceased loved ones.

I've left for loooong periods of time and come back to find him still making comments about my "Pappy". Who is dead, btw. I DON'T care to read crap like that and am not going to frequent a board that stuff like that is posted on. Call me oversensitive if you like.

Read through the 1200 thread titles, open up some of the more outrageous ones, and then tell me what you think.

You've been gone too long, dude. Get up to speed! wink

WB, btw!

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Xethian
12/13/2008 6:47:56 AM
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Keerok, just cause i don't say much, doesn't mean i haven't been here. One thing i like about mingles is the freedom to lurk everywhere.

Tck knows my parents are dead. Died before they were 60, both of them, divorced for 38 or so years. He knows cause i hang out in chat, chat with him, at him, tease him, get teased, call him names, get called names. Same with most of the regulars in chat. They know when some newbie with an attitude comes in, starts crap, and eventually, (after i've given them a hard time about their crappy attitude) says something about my mom, they know i'm gonna say the same thing i do everytime, "my mom is dead." THen they either say more stuff about her, or go back to their other bad attitude platform. DOesn't matter to me. it's done, over, and time to get back to giving the individual a rash of shit about their bad attitude.

I mean, it's an open chat, so they can spend their time and energy having a bad attitude, and i can choose to spend my energy fighting it, or I can reserve my energy for more productive things, like flirting with all the women, and a few choice men.

Sometimes i choose to beat a dead horse into subatomic particles, and sometimes i wield the block. In the forums, sometimes i go into a thread, see where it's headed and spend an hour catching up to the end of it, and sometimes i back out and go elsewhere. It's the Going Green thing don't ya know, conserving energy for what I think is a better use of it.

As for those new people who get picked on, I assume they are as capable as me with the keyboard (although only a few are as fast) and the english language to choose to, or not to, spend their time defending themselves, or ingoring time-wasting tirades. If they are adults, they don't need caregivers, they can take care of themselves. If they let themselves get taken in, then they deserve the lessons they are going to learn. Better to learn those lessons here from Tck than from someone who can do them real harm. If they are minors, they shouldn't be here in the first place. DOn't want Mingles and all its members to get subpoenaed by some federal internet-sting task force.

Geez, am I stilll talking? FOr god's sake, will someone tell the big hairy guy to shut the hell up? He's only supposed to be here for looks, not content.

Hugs and High fives all around. This is the world, and we all gotta live in it.

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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/13/2008 8:44:45 AM
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Just to be clear, I don't know Tck anymore or better than any of the rest of you. He isn't my 'friend'.

Don't misinterpret inaction on my part with condoning any particular bad behavior!

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 8:47:33 AM
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Poor Keerok, he can dish it out but he can't take it, ha! Cimm's the same way, it's hilarious the whining & crying these two come up with as a result of their own behavior. smile

Keerok was arguing a point once, he talked about how his father said this, and his father said that... I said I thought maybe his father was full of shit. Suddenly Kee goes off about how his father is dead and I shouldn't say things like that about his father. Then all of the sudden I am 'hacking on dead people'... lol. What a whining sissy. This incident occurred about 5 years ago, lol, and every time Kee brings it up, I bring it up too. Kee is too dense to let it drop, lol. Hey stupid, lol, don't keep bringing up people you don't want talked about, lol.

Do as Kee & Cimm say, but don't do as they do - they can't stand it, lol. wink

I love the way people here portray themselves as 'victims' here when they started the name calling, they started the conversations about peoples' parents, they started the 'hacking' on people, lol. Such angels and saints themselves they all are... cracks me up! LOL.

Everything I learned about these forums I learned from watching Cimm's actions. Flooding the threads, putting a "." to bring threads back up, name calling, lol. I didn't invent these ideas, lol, I watched other people like Cimm use them first.

Best bet - don't start whatever it is you cry & whine about. smile

(And then there's Chai, who I refused to whisper with one night in chat because I was whispering with some girl who was younger, and Chai's never forgotten it, lol. Another of these incidents from 5 years ago that an elephant never forgets, lol. smile Get over it, ignore me, lol, and get over yourself... Chai, please get over yourself, seek counseling, lol... you are too funny.)

I think it is GREAT that Mr. Mingles is establishing stronger rules now. I will always follow ALL of the rules established by Mr. Mingles. (I also think Mr. Mingles is inwardly smiling at how Kee, Chai, Cimm, and others are whining pathetically about me repeating their own behaviors, lol. smile)

Mingles is still the greatest site in the world. I am often laughing at what I'm going to see from Kee, Chai, Cimm, and others, BEFORE I even log in. And there are many, many nights I have laughed myself to sleep after reading what these saints & angels being 'victimized' by the evil tck have to whine & cry about. I view Kee, Chai, and Cimm as three grown adults sitting crosslegged in a sandbox crying for Mommy & Pappy to protect still them from ogres, goblins, and trolls.

Oh please protect us from the evil tck, he's doing the exact things we do, and we can't take it! Wahhhhhhh....!!!

Gawd this place cracks me up, I love you all!!! Keep coming back!!

(And be sure to follow the new rules - they are good rules.)

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Keerok
12/13/2008 9:12:21 AM
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I don't agree with all of it, but I get your point, Xeth.

The hacking on my Dad didn't end after you found out he was dead *he died in July of '05, btw*, but lie some more, we definitely expect that from you.

Get yourself some help, you are a sick piece of work.

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 9:20:18 AM
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The 'hacking on your Dad' won't ever end until YOU end it.

Will YOU ever end it Kee? You are such a 'victim' geek, lol. Move on, stupid. wink

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Keerok
12/13/2008 9:26:59 AM
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What a friendly little fellow you are, just what everybody wants to read when they come onto a board.
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swamper40
12/13/2008 9:53:23 AM
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tcks the first person to post right after Mingles does,the 2 are the same...
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H_W
12/13/2008 10:19:23 AM
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Without conclusive proof of something, it's usually beneficial not to accuse.

Especially when it's directed to the owner/operator of a site you like to use.

Location of a few posts is proof? Have you traced the transmissions to Area 51?

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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 12:27:18 PM
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If he's not your friend Mr. Mingles, why don't you act on tck?

Since the day he arrived here, he's been nothing but a destructive trouble maker, who almost single handedly brought down the quality of the forums. Look how much better it has been in here since we were able to get him to leave.

When he first arrived, the crowd that was in chat got sick of him immediately. And he stayed. Is it a coincidence that not long after his refusal to leave that your regulars in chat left and went to Shop? Chat was an empty room for years..

You've had many, many requests to shut him down and remove him, you've removed others for a lot lesser infractions and yet you do nothing about him.

Almost to a person, everyone has finally had enough of him in the forums.

Allowing a person to use your site to create lies about people, insult them, antagonize and disrupt the discussion boards and over all create bad experiences for members on this site has and will continue to work against you.

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Purewater
12/13/2008 12:50:35 PM
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cimm who are you trying to be? You need to leave this sight,TCK is no better or worse than you,your just like him, Sorry TCK didn't mean to insult you. cimm you big cry baby this is a cut throat kinfe slinging group of poeple and your right in the middle of it ,so zip it up
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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/13/2008 4:36:39 PM
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From my perspective, I see a handful of people who seem to dislike each other continue to engage in discussion and/or arguments for years and years on this site. What am I to make of that?

With a free site booting people DOES NOT WORK. They will come back. Different name, different pic, different IP address. No matter what you do, if they want to, they will come back. I've been running this site for ELEVEN YEARS. Believe me I know from what I speak.

Therefore it is up to the collective members of the site to affect who sticks around and who doesn't. You really want someone to leave? Ignore them.

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 4:39:00 PM
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Words of wisdom. ^

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Chai
12/13/2008 4:47:08 PM
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Member since 10/24/2000
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I have been ignoring Tck for the whole time he has been on here, but thanks for the advise. I agree booting people does not work, but not listening to members does even less. No bother, I see the answer to my problem. If I don't feel good when I visit a site its time to find a better one. Anyone have suggestion please email me. Thanks

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 5:02:29 PM
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Mr. Mingles -

Good job in fixing the chat problems where pop-ups were kicking people off. I've been in chat for over an hour now with no problems, thanks.

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Keerok
12/13/2008 5:05:51 PM
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If you boot them enough times, they tend not to come back. If they do, you must boot them again, or put up with endlessly disruptive people who destroy your product. I've been running boards for twenty years, since before the internet, and that's been my experience.
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Mingles (this topic's creator)
12/13/2008 5:17:48 PM
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I can bring back the way block used to work, where it also eliminated all the posts from the person blocked from your view of the forums.

Do you all want that back?

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Keerok
12/13/2008 5:22:05 PM
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If you can make it so the blocked person does not see our posts and are unable to take potshots, sure.

I guess they could not login and see what's there anyways, though.

I have no easy solutions for you, but consider: do you want your product to soar, or limp?

Please try to find a solution that lets it soar.

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 5:22:45 PM
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YES, PLEASE.

Give the 50+ year old MEN crybabies a way to help themselves from reading posts they claim they do not want to read. I cannot believe the crying & whining from these GROWN MEN who cannot seem to help themselves.

Help them, lol, bring back block! smile

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WebcamMostie
12/13/2008 5:26:05 PM
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***I think it is GREAT that Mr. Mingles is establishing stronger rules now. I will always follow ALL of the rules established by Mr. Mingles. (I also think Mr. Mingles is inwardly smiling at how Kee, Chai, Cimm, and others are whining pathetically about me repeating their own behaviors, lol. smile)***

Dude...go wipe your nose off, now- LOL

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WebcamMostie
12/13/2008 5:26:46 PM
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I say leave it all....every now and again, this place is an awesome way for me to vent, lol
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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 5:58:40 PM
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Mr. Mingles, why are you allow this lying cyber punk (who just recently lowered his stated age on his profile by 10 years ) to stay?

He's done nothing good for this place.

He's made his presence felt for two days and the members are in an uproar over it.

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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 6:14:04 PM
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"If you can make it so the blocked person does not see our posts and are unable to take potshots, sure."

Keerok has a point .

Little tushyboy (tushy is his favorite word to use on women who post in here) likes to come into the forums and write lies about people and start false rumors. He has some sort of mental and emotional problem, so it's a good idea to allow people to see what he's up to.

But why are you doing all of this to allow for one person to stay??

As evidenced by his posts about us above, he's a lying punk. And he has chased many people out of the boards over the years.

We've all enjoyed the forms so much since we chased that asshole out of here, it's been a really cool 3 months in here and now you're give him a way to come back and ruin it again..

And you call that an improvement???

Once again, why have others been removed for less and yet you allow him to stay.

Is a family member?

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MissEmerald
12/13/2008 6:32:58 PM
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I've been here for almost ten years myself and I have watched Mr Mingles *boot* my friends'profiles and many others...but I have stuck around because I'm loyal to this site....and I just plain like it.

I was hanging around in chat with Rickster, Airickjay, Ironcat and several others until FINALLY it caught on. I HAVE been in chat for hours at a time. The truth is, things change, chat isn't for me anymore...I try it out at least once a week and I don't care for the *new* format.

I don't understand why some people/profiles have been deleted and others are not. Not that I agree with that course of action, but that was a precident that only Mr Mingles could start.

I'm guessing that Mr Mingles has seen error in this method and that is why he is reluctant to terminate any more profiles.

Inaction is the worst type of action.

Let me know if ya'll find another site, I'm tired of trying to be *heard* inbetween all of the multiple nonsense threads.

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gtr420
12/13/2008 6:35:43 PM
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"I can bring back the way block used to work, where it also eliminated all the posts from the person blocked from your view of the forums.

Do you all want that back?" - mr mingles

Actually that might be a pretty good idea as it can reduce the amount of crap in the forums.

Cynical posting is another problem. I mean, what are people doing on a site like this anyways if they dont trust anybody?

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 6:49:44 PM
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Mingles is getting better all of the time. The new chat features are FANTASTIC.

The chat room attracts a lot of new members.

One new member made her first post here in the forums today - she wrote: "To all of those who are haters........."

This new member was quickly ridiculed by some older members. Check it out.

Some older members complain of insults and name calling, then right here in this very thread refer to someone as 'asshole, tushyboy, and lying punk'. Soon that older member will no doubt be complaining about his exact behavior coming from others.

Yes, bringing back block is a good idea. Just my opinion, lol. Have fun! wink

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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 6:54:32 PM
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I'll be playing guitar and singing in the chat room tonight after 9:00PM on live video cam.

Everyone's welcome! Come on in and have some FUN. smilesmilesmile

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Cimmaron
12/13/2008 7:56:11 PM
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Did you read Ms. Emerald's post Mr. Mingles?

Another long time Mingler who came back here and immediately got sick of tck's bullshit.

How many threads have been created over the years addressing that asshole????

10? 12?

You've deleted Stinky numerous times for his content, yet not once did he write to a woman here that he wanted to bend her over f.ck her in the ass. Which is what tck has done on numerous occasions and you keep him here.

You can make all of the technical tweaks that you want. But as long as you have sophomoric asshole like him in here, writing defamatory posts, trashing forum, trashing the boards (which is what Ms. Emerald referred to) writing sexual abusive remarks to women, etc. this place will never rise above the level that this board is at now. Contentious and idiotic. And all because of one certain person. TCK.

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Cristobalito
12/13/2008 8:05:18 PM
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spare the administrator - spoil the child....
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spart
12/13/2008 8:33:54 PM
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Thanks Mr. Mingles. Great site. I hope that you have a democratic attitude, and dont bow to those that would like to impose autocratic rules. My 2 cents? Best would be, dont let anybody block anything that isnt really illegal. Illegal meaning, not with accord of the laws of the USA. Whining is not the American Way.
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tck_beachbum
12/13/2008 8:58:01 PM
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It is difficult to understand Cimm from his 50+ aged male homosexual point of view.

I can only surmise that he doesn't accept rejection well. wink

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imsexy5
12/13/2008 10:11:41 PM
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Cimm: Your a 107 I guess thats why you act like you do. But you are a 2 faced liar you run your pie hole about what Mr. Mingles should or shouldn't do, when in fact you are one of the worse ones on Mingles, so if anybody should get kicked out it's your sorry self. So since you have a problem with so may people why don't you get lost go join another site
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imsexy5
12/13/2008 10:12:25 PM
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with so many people, sorry!
Search even deeper... who are you looking for exactly?