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Huge party today in Washington DC welcoming in Obama.

Beyonce sang America the Beautiful, Pete Seeger sang This Land is Your Land. Bono of U2 says "Let freedom ring!". All of these mega-rich superstars are excited!

But when the celebration is over - it will be time to get to work, lol.

i dont worry so much what Obama will do with his time in office, i worry more about his wife, especially after reading that paper she wrote in college that was very racist againt whites. if he can help recover the economy that was turned upside down by clinton then i say go for it.

I'm behind Obama 100%, there was no other choice in the election (my opinion).

I just find it amusing that so many people worship Obama as some sort of savior as though he has already changed this nation around. I fail to see anything worth celebrating at this point in our nation's history.

I like to see celebrations 'after' something is accomplished, not an expensive pep-rally in anticipation of proposed uncertain progress.

Obama is a politician, unproven in a presidency position, with a LOT of hard work in front of him. It's not like his home state of Illinois has achieved the beacon of perfection under his leadership. He ain't done nothin' yet, lol.

Work first, show me some progress... then do party time after work.

Everyone will see the situation from their own perspective, that's mine.

yeah i am trying to figure out how spending 380 billionto stimulate the economy is gonne help reduce the deficit

What would've bought Obama alot of respect were the words......With our country in the economic turmoil it is, there will be no multi million dollar celebrations for my inaugeration.....

This would've been prudent and smart politically.....but, the election is over isn't it!

I do stand behind the president elect as is my duty, however, this is already strike one and he hasn't even taken over yet.......

well until Obama shows me that he can actually help the country he is still an empty suit in my eyes

It's still the two party system running things and giving themselves raises (unearned to say the least). I can only take solace in the fact that Hillary isn't being sworn in.

I'm finding it interesting how the Democratic spin doctors are trying to link BO with Lincoln yet downplay that Lincoln was a Republican. New pennies will be issued this year commemorating Lincoln's 200th birthday. Wonder how long it'll be before we see BO on a coin?

Every time I see BO I think body odor... then I realize it is Obama, hehehe

"Obama favors flexible exit strategy... Barack Obama the candidate pledged to end the Iraq war, no questions asked. But once the surge changed its trajectory, Obama had the wisdom to recalibrate his position, allowing for maximum flexibility. His change of pace reflects the wisdom of knowing where the commanding begins."

Directly translated, in plain English: Barack Obama the candidate lied his ass off about 'pledging and end' to the Iraq War 'no questions asked'... lol.

As president, Obama realizes how ludicrous and stupid the idea actually was, and he is probably amazed that so many of his followers (sheep?) actually fell for his bullshit.

Don't like it? Too bad, he's no longer 'the candidate', lol.

Hillary Clinton leaves quick stamp on US State Department

WASHINGTON (AFP) Less than a week after taking over the reins of US foreign policy, Hillary Clinton has left her mark on the State Department with a politician-style charm offensive.

Since she arrived Thursday at the austere hub of US diplomacy, the former first lady set the tone for a "new era for America" marked by openness and dialogue.

Greeted with cheers from employees, she immediately thrust herself into a crowd worthy of the intense presidential election campaign she waged for more than a year before yielding to her Democratic rival Barack Obama.

In order to break clearly with former president George W. Bush's administration, which was accused of resorting too readily to military force, she retooled US foreign policy along three lines: diplomacy, development and defense.

In her first news briefing on Tuesday Clinton admitted Washington has "a lot of damage to repair" to its global standing, and said the world is relieved Obama has replaced Bush.

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This is a 'Quick Stamp'...? Looks like a bunch of 'pep rally' talk to me.

Nothing substantial. Some people sure get excited about nothing these days, lol.

Hillary has been blowing hot air among other things for years......why would it stop now.......

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- One day after President Barack Obama ripped Wall Street executives for their "shameful" decision to hand out $18 billion in bonuses in 2008, Congress may finally have had enough.

"You can't use taxpayer money to pay out $18 billion in bonuses," an angry Sen. Claire McCaskill says.

An angry U.S. senator introduced legislation Friday to cap compensation for employees of any company that accepts federal bailout money. Under the terms of a bill introduced by Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri, no employee would be allowed to make more than the president of the United States.

Obama's current annual salary is $400,000.

"We have a bunch of idiots on Wall Street that are kicking sand in the face of the American taxpayer," an enraged McCaskill said on the floor of the Senate. "They don't get it. These people are idiots. You can't use taxpayer money to pay out $18 billion in bonuses."

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Um... might have been a good idea to think about that BEFORE you gave them the money, retard.

One company buys a new jet, others give themselves bonuses. Free money!!!

(Folks... this is the exact reason we need democrats AND republicans AND a lot of bipartisan conflicting opinions before we let dumbass politicians give away free money like it grows on trees. Ask yourself - what kind of f*cking moronic retard gives out billions of dollars with no strings attached? Politicians DO NOT make good business people.)

What a bunch of A-holes in congress. This horse has left the barn. Dummies have no foresight, either that or they knew about it and looked the other way, and only acted when it became a scandal. oxymoron of the day Congressional Responsibility. And we are 18 billion lighter in the pocket. Thats $60 for every man, woman and child in this country. The sheeple paid Lehman Bros. bonus last year. Disgusting.

Okay... Matt Lauer has Obama for a live interview during the superbowl pre-game show.

Obama sees an US magazine and says it looks like Jessica Simpson is having a weight battle!

OMFG - I love it!!!

You know who was in charge of oversight of the TARP (Bailout) funds? The same dude we "HAD" to have for Treasury Sec, cause out of a nation of 350? million no one else was qualified. Ol' cheat on his taxes, "honest mistake" Tim. I know Congress had to set the rules on TARP and are ultimately responsible. But did you happen to hear that before he left to move to Treasury? Not! The more things change, the more they stay the same. Republicrats out, Demopublicans in.

Bailed Out Bank of America Sponsors Super Bowl Fun Fest.

February 2, 2009, by BRIAN ROSS, MEGAN CHUCHMACH, ASA ESLOCKER and JOE RHEE

Despite a near collapse that required $45 billion in federal taxpayer bailout funds, Bank of America sponsored a five day carnival-like affair just outside the Super Bowl stadium this past week as President Obama decried wasteful spending on Wall St.

Brian Ross investigates the bankers who sponsored Super Bowl festivities.The event known as the NFL Experience was 850,000 square feet of sports games and interactive entertainment attractions for football fans and was blanketed in Bank of America logos and marketing calls to sign up for football-themed banking products.

The bank staunchly defended its sponsorship, saying it was a "business proposition" and part of its "growth strategy."

Critics blasted the spending as a serious abuse of taxpayer money.

Obama let slip the real stimulus behind the stimulus: retaining power. "If we don't get this done, we [the Democrats] could lose seats, and I could lose re-election. But we can't let people like Rush Limbaugh stall this. That's how things don't get done in this town." He later said, "I'll be judged by the legacy I leave behind on the economy."

If anyone finds where the above came from, I'd be interested in the whole story to put it in perspective......I can't believe "the chosen one" would say this and mean it the way it appears.........

the thing with Bank of America TCK is the fact that most of there "bailout" money is really going to the Merrill Lynch side of there assets. BofA unfortunately bought up alot of ML's stock while it was strong. i am guessing some one inside ML knew what was gonna happen but failed to inform BofA. BofA has always been one of the strongest, if not the strongest banking institution in America. BofA itself is fine, it was the the bad buy out of ML that screwed em.one reason they are going to get more money is an agreement with the government to buy countrywide to keep countrywide from going under and having another fanny may incident. and lets not forget that Bank of America was gonna buy Lehamn but the government urged them to buy Merrill Lynch, so the government owes BofA

Robbie, check www.drudgereport.com

Many people feel that Obama is increasing the hiring of government workers, who unionize and vote 90% democrat, to ensure his own second term in office and also increase the number of other democrat politicians in future elections.

Need votes? Buy them on a long term plan?

jeez. stop hatin' on obama... give the man a chance.

Im with ya msaries!

While I support Obama, and this nation, I ALWAYS question authority.

I even question my own actions, lol, not just the actions of politicians.

Is it okay if we question our leadership, or does that constitute hate?

(HATE is a very strong word to describe someone's concern over politics. )

I'm not hating on Obama......I'm very hopeful that his got a rabbit in a hat for America. However, I do discuss things he's doing and watch closely what he's saying. You know...the before election and after election talk is almost always different.......

questioning is fine and always encouraged. but the man has only been in office for what... a couple of weeks? let him breath & get situated so he can do his/the job efficiently. i dont want a president to feel rush and make hasty decisions... then we'll really be screwed. obama is a thinker. and he seems pretty dilligent on wanting to accomplish everything he said he will. but these matters take time b/c people's lives & livelihoods are at stake. what we should be concern with are our 'shady' local/state politicians/govt....JMO

FYI, "hatin" is slang for sayin bad things about/puttin someone down (b/c they have something that you want)... and a "hater" is one who practices this... so no, i dont think its a strong word to describe what you are referring too.

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"haste not, want not!"

"Haters hate the things that they can't get and the people they can't be"

I guess some of us just speak different languages.

I don't think all women are ho's, female friends aren't bitches, a group of black women aren't prossies, I'm not a big fan of teenage black girls living out rap music fantasies with every brother on the block, and the word hate and/or hating still means the same thing to me that it always has.

(So if some ho's be hatin' on my chit fo cuz dey be's makin' up a new langage rap muzik stile fo' ta imprezz da prossies and bitches on da block, I pays me no nevva mind to the ig'nant foo's azz anyhows. Lol, I juzz be kiddin' and chit, girlfreeeeen.)

There are some groups out there that hate Obama. I sincerely hope they don't get out of hand.

New idea for Obama's efforts to help the economy:

Have members of his political party, and cabinet nominees, actually pay their own taxes.

huh? and your point is?? that was retarded and an all time low for you tck. what the hell does "black women, hoes, black teenage girls, or rap music, etc..." have to do with your or mine point or obama??? YOU GET A WTF?

(geez, tell us how you really feel about black people)

I am 100% 'race neutral' (especially after living in Europe for 6 years).

Black, yellow, pale, dark.. whatever.

My post was to illustrate how making up new slang meanings for words (such as hate, hatin', hater, etc.) might be what misconstrues a conversation.

I re-state... I didn't see where someone said they hate Obama.

So don't be hatin' on me for what I didn't say, lol.

WOW!

i dont think there is a such a thing as "race neutral" but i do believe in tolerance, understanding, and acceptance. JMO.

TCK Wrote: "I guess some of us just speak different languages.

I don't think all women are ho's, female friends aren't bitches, a group of black women aren't prossies, I'm not a big fan of teenage black girls living out rap music fantasies with every brother on the block, and the word hate and/or hating still means the same thing to me that it always has.

(So if some ho's be hatin' on my chit fo cuz dey be's makin' up a new langage rap muzik stile fo' ta imprezz da prossies and bitches on da block, I pays me no nevva mind to the ig'nant foo's azz anyhows. Lol, I juzz be kiddin' and chit, girlfreeeeen)"

**we were and are speaking the same language and PLEASE dont ever write crap like that again... dude, thats disturbing.

Hunter_Rep wrote: dont worry so much what Obama will do with his time in office, i worry more about his wife, especially after reading that paper she wrote in college that was very racist againt whites. if he can help recover the economy that was turned upside down by clinton then i say go for it."""

hunter, i wouldnt worry about michelle obama much. people in college are very impressionable, they go through phrases, and change positions all of the time. im sure if she gets out of line, obama will "check" her. As a college undergrad, I was a democrat, republican, then a libertarian, then a democrat... im a black women who joined a "white" sorority... one minute i dated only black men, then i dated only white men... go figure! i know people who were pretty radical in college and now they are complete opposite... go figure!

i havent read michelle obama's paper nor do i know what class she was in when she wrote that paper, but im sure she wrote it to the liking of her professor... i know i did that all of the time! so i wouldnt put much weight on it hunter.

only time will tell how the obamas will fair in the white house...

It disturbed the hell out of me to hear Americans talking like that in a foreign country, believe me.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not the enemy.

On Jan. 21, the day after his inauguration, Obama issued an executive order barring any former lobbyists who join his administration from dealing with matters or agencies related to their lobbying work. Nor could they join agencies they had lobbied in the previous two years.

However, William J. Lynn III, his choice to become the No. 2 official at the Defense Department, recently lobbied for military contractor Raytheon. And William Corr, tapped as deputy secretary at Health and Human Services, lobbied through most of last year as an anti-tobacco advocate. Corr says he will take no part in tobacco matters in the new administration.

"Even the toughest rules require reasonable exceptions," said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

That was a big step back from Obama's unambiguous swipe at lobbyists in November 2007, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination. "I don't take a dime of their money," he said, "and when I am president, they won't find a job in my White House."

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I forgive Obama for all of the bullshit he slung to get elected. He's sure was good at it tho'.

There's a lawsuit out there with Hillary's name on it also......something about that insignificant constitution thingy......

Is there people in Washington that haven't been lobbiests at one time or another?? Except of course "the chosen one"...

Was a great defeat to many when Holder was confirmed.......scary I say.......

I look at Obama as a young inexperienced guy taking on a helluva difficult job. He's got a lot of learning to do. Having said that, I truly believe that his heart is in the right place, and so far he's doing a decent job. Don't y'all start calling me a liberal now, because it ain't so.

Tck,

You should be investing in raytheon stock..

well Ms A, its not really the paper that she wrote but the fact that she is very rpo black that worries me. if she shows that she is trying to show favortism towards the black race, then i will be unhappy, but if she does things for all "people" not "races" then i am fine with that. the one thing i would like to see happen now that there is a black family in office is the whole "Minority" term disappear. i would also like to see the favortism for women and the so called minorities when it comes to gvernment help be changed.when i went looking for a government grant to help start my buisness there were tons for women and minorities but none for white men. i guess the government can be racist at time as well

MsAries... A Libertarian!(at on time,anyways) ALLLlllll RRRRIIIiiggghhhttt!

Daschle also was facing questions about potential conflicts of interests related to the speaking fees he accepted from health care interests. Daschle also provided advice to health insurers and hospitals through his post-Senate work at a law firm.

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Daschle bowed out of the HHS consideration because he was caught like a rat in a trap.

(He was about to become a HUGE embarrassment to the Obama administration.)

I realize this is probably a necessary meeting......however....times are changing and I believe they should too......I'm sure there is a nice comfy room in the White House that could be used for this purpose......or a Holiday Inn Express for that matter......lol

$500K spent on Dem caucus retreats

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/500k-spent-on-dem-caucus-retreats-2009-02-03.html

Obama caps executive pay tied to bailout money,read article at yahoo

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans yesterday stripped a special $246 million tax break for Hollywood producers from President Obama's stimulus package.

"This isn't stimulus. This is a gift," said Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who wrote the amendment to strike out the giveaway for some of the Democrats' most generous political supporters.

"It's not going to stimulate the economy at all," he said. "What it's going to do is line the pockets of very wealthy individuals already not experiencing the downside of the economy."

The 52-45 vote was largely along party lines, with nearly every Republican voting to remove the Hollywood tax break, joined by 13 Democrats and independent Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman.

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Obama says we must pass this bill quickly to avert a catastrophe!

(And to ensure he gets a movie part after his presidency.)

I'm still an optimistic Obama backer, but he sure seems like a regular politician these days.

is this a hate obama thread??? oh you guyz... what am i going to do with yall??!!

Nope, no hate that I can see.

Just curious MsAries... what positives do you observe?

I think Spart's summation up there is a good one and I agree. There is no hate involved. I'm just watching and observing. Obama is the most inexperienced person EVER to have been elected president. He reminds me of the new cop fresh out of the academy....gonna make a difference, gonna save the world, gonna change the perception of police everywhere. Well.....you can do some good....but don't overreach what you're prepared for because you'll be eaten alive out there. Obama is a tuna in a tank of sharks.

Every day something comes up that "the chosen one" didn't see coming.....and he acts truly surprised. I'm hoping against hope he figures out who the friendlies are quickly.

As far as Michelle? Yeah, I'm not sure she doesn't have an agenda there somewhere. Your point about college Ms A is true.....everyone is doing crazy shit there.....but, her education continued on into a church for years and years that is questionable at best. And I never heard him say those things is as bad as I didn't inhale......point is...Michelle needs to be observed just like hubby and see what direction things take.

And Michelle.......pleassssssssse get a hair dresser.....!!!

michelle graduated "cum laud"

from what i have seen and read about her, she is far and away the brightest,most attractive 1st lady to live in this whitehouse since jackie o..

Look into your past 1st ladies and tell me which one you would perform anal sex on tck?

1.Pat Nixon

2.Nancy Reagan

3.Elizabeth Ford

4.Barb Bush

5.Laura Bush

6.Hilary Clinton

7.Michelle Obama

looks like an easy choice to me!

Ronald reagan was the most in experiences along with george bush sr and jr to look at what the 3 did to this country. they destroyed it.

disagree with ya michael

When is Obama going to end the illegal war that Bush started (with Hillary's help)...?

That senseless war that shouldn't be allowed to continue for even one more day?

(Just asking, lol. )

WILLIAMSBURG, Va. A fired-up Barack Obama ditched his TelePrompter to rally House Democrats and rip Republican opponents of his recovery package Thursday night at one point openly mocking the GOP for failing to follow through on promises of bipartisanship.

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Could "Mr. I want to work with everyone" be turning in the "My opinions are superior Messiah"...?

I think Obama had a lot of great 'ideas' he is finding difficult to implement.

Why?

Was he perhaps naive and inexperienced in Washington's political ways?

(No condemnation of Obama, just some observations and thoughts. )

Welcome to Washington Mr President......

bush was naived and experienced as well... keep it fair guys!

Just as Obama needs to "prove" himself in these early days and send a message and make a precedence for his presidency.......so does the minority of Republicans. Their message is, we're not just rolling over for the next 4-8 years even though we're outnumbered. Obama will get his way with this package, but his first Washington made grey hair will pop up in the process......lol

"bush was naived and experienced as well... keep it fair guys!"

All presidents were 'naived' (lol) and inexperienced.

Your point?

If the only good thing someone can think of to say about Obama has to deal with the failures of others in the past, is that really very intelligent?

We want Obama to succeed regardless of the failures of the past, right?

Or perhaps might some suggest that if Obama fails to a lesser level of failure than Bush, he will have succeeded?

Some 4,000+ troops died in the Iraq War while Bush was president.

If 3,000 die under Obama reign is this a success story?

Bush, Clinton, Reagan... they're all GONE. We are in the HERE & NOW.

(When compared to Bush, Obama looks like superman. So what? )

naive & inexperienced is my point... but to beat a dead horse by always bashing the guy with that is unproductive. so what is the real point that you are tying to make?

Bashing? Hate?

Are we reading the same words here in this thread, or are you possibly making stuff up?

Show me where the bashing & hate are, please?

c'mon.... re read the posts in this thread and tell me most of them are negative towards the obamas. im not making anything up, ive been pointing out that it doesnt make sense this early in his presidency to keep slandering and pointing out every negative (then have the audacity to say "but im going to support obama my president" or "i like obama" ). i simply said be fair. the title of this thread is "obama supporters, oh happy day" - so be happy for once. let go of the that monkey on your back, and try to happily move on with your life...). but yet it appears just about everyone in here (AND I LOVE EVERYONE IN HERE) seem to be bashin and "hatin'" on the obamas. so if you want to cut and paste articles from your various internet news sources about what an inexeperienced or lousy guy obama is... why dont you take 5 extra minutes to try to find something positive about him that you can cut & paste... b/c all of the negativity either leads to nowhere or chaos. so be careful of where you post from, what you post and what you believe... jmo tck.

btw robbi - michelle's hair is 5x's better that condolezza... you dont know how many times i wanted to kidnap her and put a flat-iron to her hair...

"...but yet it appears just about everyone in here (AND I LOVE EVERYONE IN HERE) seem to be bashin and "hatin'" on the obamas."

It 'appears' that way to you? Now 'everyone' is doing it?

Um... I am still waiting for some specific references to bashing & hating.

You keep mentioning bashing & hate... but neither 'appear' except in your words here.

Perhaps it is YOUR perspective that may be of question?

Are you 'naived' perhaps?

(ALL politicians are subject to evaluation and questioning - Obama is not a chosen Messiah exempt from critical inspection. Obama sits down and shits in the same toilets Bush used, just like Bush did. The hoopla and dancing in the streets phase of his presidency is over, time to see some results. Welcome to Washington, Mr. Obama. Welcome to the real world, lol.)

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama says in Washington these days, everyone's an economistor thinks they are.

Obama introduced a team of outside economic advisers Friday at a White House ceremony in which he also renewed his demand that Congress act quickly on his economic recovery package.

As the country struggles with the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, Obama said there has been no shortage of advice on how to solve the nation's woes.

"You've got some economists and some folks who think they're economists. By the way, these days everybody thinks they're economists," he joked.

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Of course the Obama team is more knowlegdable and superior to any other 'team'.

For HE has chosen the team, HE has spoken. Shame on those who fail to see HIS wisdom, lol.

(Sure is good to see that partisan politics have been eliminated through Obama's open minded approach.)

see fortunately, some of us are at work (with offices, cubicles) and dont have the liberty to look up, read, cut & paste articles anytime. with that said, im far from naived tck so dont get it twisted. i just find it a waste of time to debate something so minute... no offense. but its soo pass me. ive already begun moving on.

reread what i meant by hatin or bashin... doesnt need repeatin dude. and try not to put soo much weight on the words bashin & hatin... its no that serious ( and no ignorant gangsta, rap, hoe dialect needed). my point from the start was simply 'BE FAIR' to obama, give a chance to breath & get situated... he is not God. now, can YOU do that?

i dont feel the love tck and i just want to feel a lil love...

i personally get stressed when people want to always fight,debate, be spokesperson for their political party, etc... life is too short for this crap. support the president (like you say you will) but when he ****s up, ok, voice your opinion/and or do something about it). but until then chill out. obama doesnt have all of the answers & power... isnt that why we have a 3 branches of govt inorder to keep one another in check?

Clearly nothing we do or say here is going to affect any situation, so don't take it to heart.

Just take all of this forum stuff with a grain of salt - it has no weight.

Before the election there was SOOOOO much hoopla about the great savior Obama who was going to change everything from bad to good.

"The day I become president will be a new day for all Americans!" Well, that day has arrived, lol.

I laugh because this pre-election talk was as much bullshit then as it is now. Obama's got 4 years, and probably more, to show his political skills - but he's a politician just like the rest of them, no superpowers (as he is clearly coming to realize).

It amuses me to see him folding up his (pre-election bravado) superman cape and put on his mild-mannered Clark Kent suit, the realization of super power waning in the light of reality.

The throngs of 'believers' and worshipers are now back at home, still out of work, with the sounds of OH HAPPY DAY also waning in the light of reality.

(And sadly but true - many people are seeing the harsh reality that there are 3 branches of government and that Obama doesn't reign supreme over them all, he actually has limitations!)

i especially dont take this thread to heart.

"Before the election there was SOOOOO much hoopla about the great savior Obama who was going to change everything from bad to good."

***yea, that drove me nuts.

"The day I become president will be a new day for all Americans!" Well, that day has arrived, lol.

I laugh because this pre-election talk was as much bullshit then as it is now. Obama's got 4 years, and probably more, to show his political skills - but he's a politician just like the rest of them, no superpowers (as he is clearly coming to realize)."

**its called rhetoric... all politicians are guilty of it. and as far as superpowers, im sure he realized that he had none way before he put his name in the race... inexperience he may be, but not stupid. anyways heres to you tck

Congrats!

You fully grasp my point.

Obama calls delay in stimulus bill 'inexcusable and irresponsible'.

The other 99.9% of people in Washington DC simply call it business as usual.

(Welcome to Washington DC Mr. Obama, lol. )

Oh Happy Day!!! LOL......now that song is stuck.....

When will Bush's illegal war end? Bush isn't the president anymore.

Obama, Pelosi, and others have stated that there would be an immediate end to Bush's illegal war.

What's the holdup?

Personally I think they are full of BULLSHIT and they LIED to the public.

Every day that the war continues is an agreement that Bush's war was/is a good idea.

What was encouraging about the election of Obama was not so much that he would bring about the change we need. I think most educated people will realize it will take more than one man (even a president) to bring about these changes. I do not think of Obama as a magical savior like so many Americans seem to.

What was TRULY encouraging about his election was knowing that it means Americans are finally tired of hypocracy in government and really do, for the first time in many years, want REAL and lasting change. Even if Obama can't deliver it to us, we know America is hungry for it.

Drumroll, thank you. You have illustrated my EXACT point.

Regardless of any positive outcome, regardless of any progress, and regardless of any change...

... regardless of anything at all, good or bad, sing praise (about nothing):

OH HAPPY DAY....!!!

Not only does Obama have his hands full with the nations problems, fighting the Republicans and getting pulled every which way......The "chosen one" also has to keep an eye on his dumb ass vice that he was saddled with by the party.......

Barack Obama throws Joe Biden under the bus

Posted By: Toby Harnden at Feb 10, 2009 at 02:30:33 [General]

Pity poor Joe Biden. His "there's still a 30 percent chance we're going to get it wrong" quote is put straight to President Barack Obama during the White House press conference just now and his boss seemed to want to say: "Vice-President Who?"

As reporters started giggling, Obama came close to conceding that Biden was indeed a joke. "You know, I don't remember exactly what Joe was referring to, not surprisingly."

The President went on to say that "I think what Joe may have been suggesting, although I wouldn't ascribe any numerical percentage to any of this, is that given the magnitude of the challenges that we have, any single thing that we do is going to be part of the solution, not all of the solution."

Of course, Biden wasn't saying anything of the sort - Obama knew that and all the rest of us did too.

Biden's exact quote, read out by Fox's Major Garrett at the presser was: "If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, if we stand up there and we really make the tough decisions, there's still a 30 percent chance we're going to get it wrong."

Clearly, Obama and his aides were unhappy about Biden's loose lips. On Friday, top Obama adviser David Axelrod said on CNN: "I don't know exactly about what that math was."

We're probably going to have to get used to Obama explaining "what Joe may have been suggesting". And Biden must be wondering if he's going to end up as a Dan Quayle figure.

Joe Biden is heads and tails above Dan Quayle. And at least he's no Dick Cheney. But I do agree... As smart as Biden is, he needs to learn to shut his mouth sometimes. He's not helping Obama out by making statements like those.

That Obama sure is a spin master.....lol....He could get a real job with the media after he's done playing president.......hehehehe

Sing praise about Obama!

Nothing is happening, no changes are taking place.

Politics as usual in Washington, DC.

Bush's illegal war still claims the lives of our servicemen.

But OH HAPPY, HAPPY DAY...!

OH HAPPY DAY...!

I love these desperate attempts to find something good to say about Obama people are reaching for.

The most popular one: Obama is better than Bush.

WOWEEEEE! That's saying ALOT...!!!!

(Get real.)

Gregg withdraws nomination to become commerce secy (AP).

AP - Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire abruptly withdrew his nomination as commerce secretary Thursday, citing "irresolvable conflicts" with President Barack Obama's handling of the economic stimulus and 2010 census. "We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy," Gregg said in a statement released by his Senate office.

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Gregg must not have as many friends in the road construction business as Obama does.

So much for bi-partisan politics.

That or his taxes are caught up.......

Gregg will be politically crucified in Washington by democrats horrified that Gregg would have the audacity to entertain any notion about Obama's ideas and leadership not being the right way for our nation to go.

It will be construed as a sign of the evil republican beast raising it's ugly head.

Gregg suggesting that he may disagree with Obama... how dare he!

Ha! I just thought of something.

If there were a law stating that the inauguration festivies, ceremonies, and hoopla were to be scheduled AFTER a new president's first 100 days in office...

I wonder how many people would swarm in to sing OH HAPPY DAY...?

I think this is really, really funny:

Obama came up with this shallow-minded scheme to put pay cap limits on executive salaries if they 'accepted' bailout money. $400,000 maximum salary.

Then some junior aide (probably an intern) enlightened Obama on how the government actually 'earns' money - from tax dollars.

It seems Obama learned that for every $100,000 in executive pay the government gets roughly 30% ($30,000) back in taxes.

(Obama reportedly argued with the intern claiming that the government's money was simply printed up at the money manufacturing factory as needed. But a senior advisor reminded Obama that the manufacturing industry was on it's ass and the money plant was shut down, lol.)

So - after learning that the government would stand to lose $$ billions in tax revenue...

The executive pay cap clause was removed from the economic stimulus bill...!

(Give him time, he's learning. Maybe those interns are good for something other than a blow job? )

It seems Obama learned that for every $100,000 in executive pay the government gets roughly 30% ($30,000) back in taxes.

This is a lie. Where dim you dream this up?

28%... at the current tax rate?

That's roughly 30%... even more when you consider state, local.

Perhaps explain your view on the math, please?

Currently approx. 47% of all income goes towards some kind of tax, whether federal, state, city, whatever.....and I actually thought the rate for $100,000 was higher than 28%......but.....

Robbi, I purposely kept my stated percentage figure grossly UNDERSTATED so no one could argue that my figures were too high. Thank you for seeing that. The government receives much higher than the 30% I mentioned.

Michael may or may not reply as to why he thinks there is a lie involved.

All politics aside...

Obama has statement regarding those people at risk of not being able to pay off their mortgage loans: "...these peoples' only crime was in being talked into taking out a loan they couldn't afford by some slick loan salesman...."

I disagree. I'm not sure there was any 'crime' committed, and if there was a 'crime' involved the perpetrators of the crime should be prosecuted. But there hasn't been any indication of anything criminal - people simply took out loans they couldn't afford.

Shouldn't all legal aged adults be able make their own decisions regarding their mortgage loans?

I know I wouldn't want my own loan receiving choices limited because some doofuses defaulted on their loans.

Right now it looks as though the people who stupidly spent more than they earn are going to get a reprieve (bailout) along with the message that they didn't do anything wrong.

Personally I think these people need an economic 'smackdown' so they learn not to overspend the income they don't have.

Is there too much chocolate on the shelves at grocery stores? Peoples' only crime may be that they can't pass up buying too much chocolate. Legislate? Sue the store? Bail them out?

The message should be this: grow up.

"From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs."

Tck,

I completely agree with your last post!

People that couldnt afford to look at a house were given loans.Now the feds want to bail them out.

They should throw them out!

i hope Obama will make things better. as for being better than Bush, a rock would have been better. because a rock would not screw things up as bad as he did.

oh, while on the subject of Bush, i am sure MsAries has a very nice Bush.

just sayin ya know

There's another one, lol.

Oh Happy Day!

no no biker! the lady referred to it as "magic pussy" lol

uh,mr. bullwinkle. what exactly does a magic pussy do?

i am not sure,but it sounds good!

Oh I agree. It does sound good. But how does it taste? Tastes great! Less filling! Opps, did I say that out loud?

Louisiana Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal is sticking to his position of rejecting part of the federal stimulus money for his state, saying Sunday that accepting an increase in unemployment benefits will lead to higher taxes on businesses in his state.

Mississippi Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin say they may follow suit. They say the money to be disbursed to the states in the $787 billion spending and tax cuts package comes with too many strings attached.

"The unemployment insurance reform, if you will, would require the state to pay people who are not willing to take a full-time job," Barbour told FOX News, saying his state is not going to expand benefits to part-time workers. "We're not going to change that. ... We're going to give up about $50 million of federal money."

"It would be like spending a dollar to get a dime," Jindal said on NBC's "Meet the Press. "The federal stimulus bill says it has to be a permanent change in state law if you take this money, so within three years, the federal money is gone, we've got now a permanent change in our laws."

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I do believe the 'economic stimulus package' was a purely political manuever of democrat vs. republican, and I believe that few (if any) of the voters actually read and studied the content before voting.

Sooner or later businesses will have to be encouraged to hire people, not discouraged.

And I hope when that time comes people will be willing to actually work.

I love Obama. My firearms have gained about 30% value...hehe

If the states have to change laws and eventually pay out money when the Feds cut it off.....then I believe they should reject it as well. I'm definitely wishing right now that Montana didn't have a Democrat for a governor........

Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders,

'As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this'

Posted: February 23, 2009

9:35 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh

2009 WorldNetDaily

A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

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ok so i cought a few moments of Obommies speach, he said there is a tax break for us lower income folk, then he said checks are on the way. are we gettin another stimulus check or what?

Yeah, but don't count on it to be very 'stimulating'.

Someone somewhere had better realize pretty soon that this whole multiple stimulus idea is supposed to stimulate something at some point.

Stimulants are only legal if they don't really do that much for you...you have to break the law if you want to feel much better.

Obama is a great orator. His speech was impressive. There were parts where I wanted to applaud along with the Congress....(who stood up and sat down way too many times). But, bottom line......more government is not the answer. For those of you that watched it on CBS and saw the republican response given by Gov. Jindal after Obama's speech.....that was equally impressive and more to my line of thinking. I loved when he pointed out that they passed a stimulus bill that none of them had read or that none of us know what's in it. Every time they disclose more it's a surprise......LOL. Volcano's?? Hmmmmmmmm......earmark, pork....call it what you want..doesn't sound too stimulating to me......

I was very impressed when the longest and loudest applause was given after he talked about our military troops........

That was very funny Captain!!!!

I agree, he is a great orator. He knows all of the right things to say.

Lets see if he delivers.

Good Swing.....watch for the follow threw.......through? lol

Go Texas!!!!

"America is not great because of the size of our government, but because of the vision and values of our people. I am convinced that those who believe in big government have little faith in self-governance. Their philosophy says that government should do what a man can't -- or won't -- do for himself. Perhaps I'm jaded, but I believe that the gush of taxpayer dollars issuing forth from Washington is not driven by compassion, but from an unspoken belief that Americans are not smart enough to govern their own lives, strong enough to take some risk or compassionate enough to help neighbors in need. Conservatism has gotten a black eye over the past few years, not because our core principles are less true, but because so many of our leaders lost their way. When conservatives forget the values that got them elected and morph into big-spending, favor-trading politicians, voters will simply vote for whoever offers change, and, in 2008, they did. I don't think such an outcome dictates a redefinition of conservatism. If anything, it is a stark reminder that we need to return to our fiscally conservative roots. Not just in Washington, D.C., but in every state in the nation." --Texas Gov. Rick Perry

Overall, everything considered, nothing's perfect... but today I am satisfied in general with Obama's undertakings.

He is making some bold moves, whether they turn out to be good, bad, or indifferent.

I know from being in business that in order to initiate change you must make decisions.

And I could give a f*ck about what the previous administration did - that's history.

Moving on in a forward direction!

Sooner or later some of the unemployed people those who sang "OH HAPPY DAY" during the inauguration wing-ding are going to wonder when the 'happy day' is going to arrive. We all love a good party, and I hope everyone had a good time, but the jobs continue to go OUT of the USA.

- WHY do jobs leave the U.S.A. and end up in Mexico and other countries?

EASY ANSWER: Because it costs less for the companies to make their products there.

- WHY does it cost less for companies to make their products in foreign countries?

EASY ANSWER: personnel & labor costs are way, way less expensive, there are no unions workers (who don't want to work) going on strike, no mandatory family leave (for people who don't want to work), no outrageous benefits, vacation pay, sick pay, taxes, unemployment insurance, workers' compensation, health insurance costs, legal liabilities. People in foreign countries actually work for the wages agreed upon.

- WHEN will the jobs come back to the USA?

EASY ANSWER: unfortunately... when U.S. workers WANT to work, more than the foreigners want to work, the jobs MIGHT come back. Sad, huh?

Of course unemployment benefits, free money, and government give-away programs allowing & encouraging people to NOT work will have to dry up. But even a retarded person can see the end to that nonsense, the free money can't last forever anymore than unions demanding more money from companies that can't sell their products.

- What would you do if the guy mowing your lawn suddenly wanted $50.00 to do the work and some kid down the street would do it for $10.00...?

- When the free money runs out the unemployed people will start mowing lawns, and they'll find out how business & competition works.

The 'happy day' is coming... but not before some hard learned painful education.

Hope you enjoyed the party!

(Ha! I recently watched a local TV station interview where they questioned workers on their last day of work before their plant shut down to move to Mexico. One worker was wearing his 'Union Pride' shirt during the TV interview. The same 'union pride' that shut the plant down with a strike two years ago (hey, lol, bet that won't happen again, huh?). Someone please tell the guy to burn the union shirt before he goes to any job interviews, and/or complains about how he doesn't have a job. "I want you to give me a job but I DEMAND to have a say in company management". Ummm.... NEXT applicant...!!!)

"Union Pride" shirts are on sale at wal-mart in all the spring colors for 3 @ $5.00 (cheap shirts though - made in China)

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama is comparing the stock market to the daily tracking polls used during campaigns, saying that paying too close attention to Wall Street's "fits and starts" could lead to bad long-term policy.

Obama spoke to reporters Tuesday after meeting in the Oval Office with visiting British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. Obama said he is not measuring policies against "the day-to-day gyrations of the stock market," but by whether lending is flowing more freely, businesses are investing and the unemployed are going back to work.

He said he is "absolutely confident" that those things will happen. But the president also said it will take time for the mistakes of the past to work their way through the system.

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Sounds like a plan. When "businesses are investing and the unemployed are going back to work" we'll know it is working.

(And we'll know when it isn't.... )

The stock market down 50% in two years and an economic recession (more arguably a depression) indicates market 'fits and starts'. Mostly 'fits' though? Or a big HUGE fit? Or a schizoid seizure 'fit'?

lol, this all makes for good theater.

Critics question Obama's pledge to end 'pork'.

President Obama is getting pushback from members of his own party who are questioning his vow to end wasteful spending, or pork.

In an address to Congress last week, Obama praised the $787 billion stimulus package, telling the nation, "I'm proud that we passed a recovery plan free of earmarks." Sen. Claire McCaskill said, "There was just a roar of laughter -- because there were earmarks."

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It is said that a true politician often does not even know he is lying.

(He will say whatever, whenever, where ever, if the non-truth bolsters his stance.)

"I ALWAYS question authority." - tck_beachbum

As you should. Any authority that goes unquestioned becomes dictatorship.

i am beginning to get tired of his way of walking just before his speeches, he looks arrogant, walking slowly and smilimg too much.

From another site:

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"But what Obama is doing is flat out taking advantage of a bad situation to implement his socialist pograms."

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Socialism anyone?

(LOL, everyone?)

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama will make his first overseas trip since taking office at the end of this month, visiting England, France, Germany and the Czech Republic, the White House said Thursday.

President Obama wil travel with first lady Michelle Obama to four European nations in the coming weeks.

The trip is scheduled from March 31-April 5.

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Things are going so well here in the United States that Obama and his wife have time to go to Europe.

(Hail to the king! Oh happy day!)

Ummm. As President of the USA, I think its part of his job to travel to other countries and meet with other world leaders. As far as Mrs. Obama is concerned, I think etiquette demands that she go with him... at least for the first time. Bottom line is, that he's only been at it for a few weeks, lets cut him some slack. After all, he inherited a pretty shi**y situation in this country -- a crumbling economy, two wars (one of which, we were railroaded into), and lets not forget that his office has lost copious amounts of credibility in the past 8 years. I simply think hes trying to end the free-for-all that wall street has enjoyed for years until it brought us where we are now. I still do not support him raising taxes too soon after we recover from this.... that didn't go over too well in the great depression (Two recessions with a recovery and tax increase in the middle).

None of what is going on is Obama's fault, he should spend two weeks in Europe.

He's only been 'at it' a few weeks, time for a trip with the wife overseas. Poor guy.

Maybe have another bash in front of the Lincoln Memorial to welcome him back. Talk about 'hope' and a new day! Talk shit, party, encourage people to dream of a new day... dream on. Rise up, lift your spirits! Sing! Oh Happy Day...!

Gtr - my own opinion is that after having a HUGE party at the Lincoln Memorial complete with rock stars, and after blowing all of that money ($787 billion) to 'stimulate' the economy, I expected something.... anything... lol. Now all I hear are excuses.

I have a hard time cutting politicians any slack. I don't get any in my job, or I go broke, so I don't give a lot in return.

It is time to work on real issues right here in the USA - no slacking, Lord knows we have plenty of slacking right now here in the USA. F*ck Europe, we need to mow our own lawn.

Once again, just my opinions, I'm not crying any tears for our politicians, I just want them to PRODUCE. And I want them to PRODUCE now, regardless of what they 'were left to work with by the previous administration', NOW.

I am obviously in the minority, but it's all cool.

hey tck i notice all of your Quotes or news sources are umm how do i put this nice liberal supporters ha no wonder it all sounds so great...

So... back when Obama was wooing the ignorant masses with bold, brash campaign talk (bullshit & lies? don't worry, I forgive him, campaign talk is just that - talk) he suggested going after some oil companies with a 'windfall profits' tax.

The huddled masses loved the idea, Obama the modern day Robin Hood taking from the rich greedy oil bastards and giving it to the poor.

I said NO, THE OIL COMPANIES WILL SIMPLY MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND WE WON'T GET ANY TAX BENEFIT! This is very easy to see coming, we as individuals leave places where the taxes are high, not just companies. This is not rocket science or MBA level thinking.

Well.....

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Corporate oil booms in low-tax Switzerland.

ZUG, Switzerland, March 12 (Reuters) - The tidy towns and mountain vistas of Switzerland are an unlikely setting for an oil boom.

Yet a wave of energy companies has in the last few months announced plans to move to Switzerland -- mainly for its appeal as a low-tax corporate domicile that looks relatively likely to stay out of reach of Barack Obama's tax-seeking administration.

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Wants more companies and more jobs in the U.S.A.?

Give them reasons to STAY.

So the wealthy guy isn't coming to dinner........imagine that!!!!

TCK liberal???......LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sort of like calling you a "Global Warming Freak" LMAO

Funny you should say that.... lol:

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Kerry: Climate change delay is 'suicide pact'.

A leading US senator warned on Wednesday that deferring potentially costly actions to combat climate change because of the global economic slump amounted to "a mutual suicide pact."

"Climate change is not governed by a recession, it's governed by scientific facts about what's happening to Earth. And you either accept the realities of the science or you don't," said Democratic Senator John Kerry.

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Is there a 'brain death' syndrome that affects losing presidential candidates?

John Kerry and Al Gore both somehow now believe there is science proving that 'global warming' is a problem. Science? Are the 'losers' so mentally traumatized that they'll resort to any issue, even issues backed by falsehoods, just to appear knowledgeable?

?

I just finished reading "State of Fear" by Michael Chrichton. The book was written in 2004 (Chrichton died last November)and there is a bunch of controversy surrounding the book as it deals with the global warming issue, the media....etc. He supplies footnotes throughout the book regarding the sources of his scientific information. The characters in State of Fear also debate deforestation, endangered species, sustainable development, DDT, and many other hot environmental topics.

I thought it was an interesting read.

The Economy: 'Excess of fear' must be broken

WASHINGTON President Barack Obama's top economic adviser said Friday the nation's economic crisis has led to an "excess of fear" among Americans that must be broken to reverse the downturn.

"Fear begets fear," Lawrence Summers, the president's director of the National Economic Council, told a forum.

"It is this transition from an excess of greed to an excess of fear that President Roosevelt had in mind when he famously observed that the only thing we had to fear was fear itself," Summers said. "It is this transition that has happened in the United States today."

Summers spoke amid new signs of a deepening recession. The U.S. trade deficit plunged in January to the lowest level in six years as the economic downturn cut America's demand for imported goods, the Commerce Department reported Friday.

The economic adviser, who was treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, said it's still too early to gauge the broad impact of the administration's recovery program.

"But it is modestly encouraging that since it began to take shape, consumer spending in the U.S., which was collapsing during the holiday season, appears, according to a number of indicators, to have stabilized," Summers told the Brookings Institution, a think tank.

Summers was asked by a member of the audience what the nation's business community could do to help speed the recovery.

"What we need today is more optimism and more confidence," Summers said.

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What will give YOU optimism and confidence?

What will give businesses optimism and confidence?

(I do not believe that giving away money inspires consumers.)

(I do not believe that higher taxes on businesses and people hiring employees will help.)

(I hope I am wrong. )

Obama rushes a 'stimulus package' bailout through in 48 hours.

Admittedly, few if any take the time or even have the time to read all 400 pages. It is basically a democrat effort totally rushed through without much thought because 'it has to be better than anything the republicans can come up with'.

Now... it turns out that some of the bailout money isn't being used the way Obama intended.

So... Obama is seeking ways of getting the money back from some companies.

(One democrat dumbass suggested a 100% tax, after the act, on certain uses of the funds. What a completely retarded idea and an excellent way to make companies NEVER want to be located in the USA - they'll all be afraid of some wingnut politician imposing an 'after the act' tax if they do something declared as 'wrong'.)

I do believe Obama should ask certain companies to voluntarily return some unused funds, but the 100% tax idea is so completely stupid I can't believe it was even suggested.

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Moral to the whole story:

"There is never time to do it right the first time, but there is always time to do it over."

Anger Over Firm Depletes Obama's Political Capital.

By Michael D. Shear and Paul Kane

Washington Post Staff Writers

Tuesday, March 17, 2009; A01

President Obama's apparent inability to block executive bonuses at insurance giant AIG has dealt a sharp blow to his young administration and is threatening to derail both public and congressional support for his ambitious political agenda.

Politicians in both parties flocked to express outrage over $165 million in bonuses paid out to executives at the company, demanding answers from the president and swamping yesterday's rollout of his efforts to spark lending to small businesses.

The populist anger at the executives who ran their firms into the ground is increasingly blowing back on Obama, whom aides yesterday described as having little recourse in the face of legal contracts that guaranteed those bonuses.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, peppered with questions about why the president had not done more to block the bonuses at a company that has received $170 billion in taxpayer funds, struggled for an answer yesterday afternoon. He explained that government lawyers are "looking through contracts to see what can be done to wrest these bonuses from their recipients."

Obama himself sought to channel the public's sense of disbelief yesterday. "How do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat?" he said, declaring the bonuses an "outrage" that violate "fundamental values."

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Obama himself expressed outrage over his own outrage (and over his complete stupidity).

The AIG executives..... they're singing: OH HAPPY DAY...!!!

OH HAPPY DAY!!!! $$ MILLIONS BONUSES FROM THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY, LOL...!

(The AIG guys have got to be cracking up over this 'free money' from Obama! )

And here's another approach.........

"Obviously, maybe they ought to be removed," said Sen. Charles Grassley during an Iowa City radio interview on Monday. "But I would suggest the first thing that would make me feel a little bit better toward them if they'd follow the Japanese example and come before the American people and take that deep bow and say, I'm sorry, and then either do one of two things: resign or go commit suicide."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29733519/

AIG got caught... probably because they gave away too big of $$ chunks.

But just think of the $100,000 chunks other companies probably quietly put in their pockets.

Our tax dollars given away.

I hope that government money tree doesn't stop bearing fruit.

Some humorous snippets found on the internet:

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"The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money."

"Don't spread my wealth, spread my work ethic."

"Look out taxpayers... Obama thinks you're rich!"

"There were 1.5 million people at the inauguration... only 14 of them missed work."

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(No offense intended, just political humor bordering on reality, lol. )

to bad for AIG the government wasnt gonna turn a blind eye, AIG execs were asked to return the money or they would tax the bonuses up to 90%. after the feds said that AIG CEO asked the execs to give the money back. about damn time the feds did something right.

March 18, 2009

BREAKING: I was responsible for bonus loophole, says Dodd.

Posted: 05:56 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) Senate Banking committee Chairman Christopher Dodd told CNNs Dana Bash and Wolf Blitzer Wednesday that he was responsible for adding the bonus loophole into the stimulus package that permitted AIG and other companies that received bailout funds to pay bonuses.

Watch: I'm responsible for bonus loophole, Dodd says

On Tuesday, Dodd denied to CNN that he had anything to do with the adding of that provision.

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Politics and lies. These guys are so sure of themselves. They have no conception that what they do might just possibly be wrong. Instead of checking and double checking before releasing millions of dollars they just rush a spending bill through in 2 days telling everyone that is is the right thing to do. Amazing.

some AIG execs have allready returned part or all of there bonuses.

Was watching some C-Span tonight when Congress was asking Liddy questions. That poor guy....gets asked to come out of retirement in September to help AIG and the Government sort this mess out, agrees to work for $1.00 a year and has to be persecuted in front of Congress. Some did seem to realize that he's NOT the bad guy, but, he's still taking ALOT of heat for something that he really doesn't have all the answers for as of yet........

It also showed me that members of Congress don't understand large money deals any better than me......LOL

One that I thought asked interesting and intelligent questions was that congresswoman from Minnesota.......forget the name, but she seemed on top of the game......

Dodd Blames Obama Administration for Bonus Amendment (Update1)

By Ryan J. Donmoyer

March 19 (Bloomberg) -- Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd said the Obama administration asked him to insert a provision in last months $787 billion economic- stimulus legislation that had the effect of authorizing American International Group Inc.s bonuses.

Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, said yesterday he agreed to modify restrictions on executive pay at companies receiving taxpayer assistance to exempt bonuses already agreed upon in contracts. He said he did so without realizing the change would benefit AIG, whose recent $165 million payment to employees has sparked a public furor.

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I think Dodd and Obama are beginning to look like some crooked motherf*ckers.

Blaming each other, shifting blame, how spineless.

I've said before that I truly hope for the best from the new administration, but this sense of "we are right, no need for reviews" is disturbing.

Obama may be simply be an ego-inflated dumbass, time will tell. I'm seriously disappointed.

Just my opinion.

Has anyone else seen the threats being levied against the AIG execs? I've only seen a couple, but obviously the rage being felt by Americans is much higher than I thought. I know that the Michigan Congressman remarked yesterday about the high unemployment rate in Michigan and that these people were pretty excited about someone receiving $1million plus bonus' for destroying the economy and along with it their jobs..........

After at first denying it, Sen. Dodd of Connecticut admits putting language in the bailout package allowing the big bonus activity.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/18/sen-dodd-admits-adding-bonus-provision-stimulus-package/

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Geithner defends action on bonuses.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told CNN his department asked Sen. Christopher Dodd to include a loophole in the stimulus bill that let bailed-out insurance giant AIG to keep some of its bonuses. Geithner said in an interview with Ali Velshi the Treasury was concerned the government would face lawsuits if contracts were breached for the bonuses.

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President Obama, Dodd, and Geithner appear to be very competent and responsible when it comes to this nation's funds. It is none of their faults, it is the fault of each other.

Any of us would jump at the chance to have these gentlemen manage our own personal funds.... right?

What a pack of complete liars. They are meant for each other, they work well together, and we as a nation are getting exactly what WE deserve. WE are so f*cking stupid to trust these nitwits that we truly deserve what we are getting.

Oh Happy Day! Sing loud and with heart!

Organized labor gives Obama high grades so far

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29725148/

Go Figure........

Okay! We now have yet another group singing OH HAPPY DAY...!

Foreign financial and investment firms are gleefully accepting the exodus of intelligent American talent preparing to leave the USA financial firms for the less taxed greener pastures of other countries.

Why? Well... let's say your government passed a bill giving YOUR profession 'extra money' (moronically STUPID idea to begin with, lol), and then instead of accepting responsibility your government just decides to single out YOUR profession for a 'penalty tax of, get this, lol... 90%... to take back the money?

Ha! Yeah.... a penalty tax to TAKE the money back? Are YOU next? They got the power!

(When Obama threatened the oil industry with a 'windfall profits tax' as a penalty for doing really good business, the huddled masses cheered the new messiah for going after the greedy robber barons. So the greedy robber barons relocated to... Switzerland! Um... now how much tax revenue, windfall profits or otherwise, does the USA enjoy now? None! So stupid of an American leader to be so shortsighted. You mistreat your dog long enough and what will the dog do? It runs away.)

Stay tuned for the next group to be singing OH HAPPY DAY... when Obama the f*cking moronic retard takes his next idea to the cheers of America's poor & unemployed.

OH HAPPY DAY! Yes we can!

Well, Dumbo Ears sees the reality, he wants the corporate executives to get out of New York.

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In the CBS interview, the president also says corporate executives need to better understand the public's outrage over bonuses. He says executives should get out of New York and spend time in Iowa or Arkansas where people are thrilled to be making $75,000 a year with no bonuses.

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He's going to get his wish, but they're not going to Iowa or Arkansas... they're going out of the USA.

Hey Dumbo Ears - maybe be a little more careful when giving away $787 billion. Suggestion? Take a little more than 48 hours to push the bill through (you asshole). We have a two party system so self-inflated egoistic buttf*cks like you can't think they know everything, and then become proved woefully wrong, and then blame someone else.

You gave them the money, dickhead. You share the blame.

Just my opinion, no offense to anyone but president know-it-all.

Notice his approval rating is steady, steady going down.

Man, if I were making 75K a year I'd be ecstatic..... sheeit

gtr...

Somewhere, somebody is saying the exact same thing about YOUR salary.

NOBODY claims that they make 'enough' money.

The homeless person would be ecstatic making minimum wage, it is all relative to how much we each make.

($75,000 in New York City is not 'enough' for an executive. Obama is yet again showing his ignorance on a subject where he has ZERO knowledge. Obama is once again pandering to the lower class non-thinkers who believe everything he says. Look at the housing, transportation, and cost of living factors in NYC, and one will clearly see that Obama is playing Robin Hood again - suggesting the rich are too rich. Any dumbass knows that salaries are less in Iowa or Arkansas. Pretty soon Obama's false 'veil of intelligence' is going to become VERY transparent - he doesn't know even half of what he claims to know. Yes, he is our president, no, there was not really any other choice. )

the problem is that the homeless person making minimum wage would still be homeless..... ever wonder why people turn to crime.... it seems to pay better and if caught? ya live rent-free for a few years.

Many people choose jail, especially in the winter months (but not only the winter months).

(That's one reason why California and other states are emptying out their jails of non-violent offenders, to save money on their free room & board).

Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another is from Tennessee , and the third is from Minnesota .

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence.

The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. "Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?"

The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."

"Done!" replies the government official.

And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work

lol,robbi that is good! i'm gonna remember that one

Obama will fly into London for his first visit to the UK as president of the United States on Tuesday to take part in the G20 summit in the capital's Docklands area. He will not be travelling light.

More than 500 officials and staff will accompany the president on his tour this week - along with a mass of high-tech security equipment, including the $300,000 presidential limousine, known as The Beast. Fitted with night-vision camera, reinforced steel plating, tear- gas cannon and oxygen tanks, the vehicle is the ultimate in heavy armoured transport.

In addition, a team from the White House kitchen will travel with the president to prepare his food. As one official put it: "When the president travels, the White House travels with him, right down to the car he drives, the water he drinks, the gasoline he uses, the food he eats. America is still the sole superpower and the president must have the ability to handle any crisis, anywhere, any time."

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Since we don't have any problems here in the USA, Obama's going to Europe.

His luster is diminishing fast here overseas, The editorials are ripping him a new a**. Partly unfair I think, we have major problems not going to fixed overnight by one man. But then again he brought it on himself. Too many bought into his "speeches" in the campaign and his speeches now are just more of the same. Just speeches. It will take the people and businesses, big and small to fix the economy, not the government. It always has and always will. The government is meant to run the government, not the economy.

The trouble is that people dont want the complicated truth. They want the simple fantasy. But on the plus side of Obama, at least he didnt ride around on the straight talk express and hand us a bunch of political double talk..... I have to say that he is plain-spoken, which is very refreshing, whether he can accomplish his goals or not. Also, he is showing that he can be dynamic. We have simply had too many people trying to run this country with static goals and ideas. Sometimes things happen that require a change in plans. Obama seems to be somebody who can recognize that.

The time for a third party rising is very close. VERY close!

The Obama administration is facing its first test in an international crisis as the U.N. Security Council prepares Sunday for an emergency session to consider a response to North Korea's rocket launch earlier in the day

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice is leading the U.S. delegation to the world body. Echoing President Obama and other administration officials, Rice called North Korea's launch "serious and provocative" and said Pyongyang's actions demonstrate why the U.S. is concerned about its capability of delivering weapons.

"That's what we're most concerned about preventing, and preventing North Korea from sharing that technology with others," Rice said on ABC's "This Week."

"The United States believes that this action is best dealt with -- the most appropriate response would be a United Nations Security Council resolution," she added.

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The North Korea situation is a 100% United Nations issue, NOT an issue of the USA's.

Let's see if Obama has the sense to NOT do what everyone condemned Bush for doing.

(The USA is NOT the United nations. We have our own issues.)

North Korea has a bunch of people to feed and not much money. They are hoping to draw attention to themselves as a threat, and maybe will get some money to stop playing with missiles.

You are right tck..... it is a UN problem and not a US problem... we need to quit throwing the book at everyone..... or they'll turn around and shove it up our asses first chance they get.

I'm waiting to see what Obama does.....it'll be interesting. Could this be the "test" Biden talked about??

Man, I feel better already, those United Nations Security Council Resolutions have always helped and "Fixed" problems the world over.

Did everyone do their part in paying for bailouts by today?

How many people are happy about the $$ billions of YOUR money Obama gave away?

(How much good did it do?)

"Yes we can!"

"Vote for change!"

Oh Happy Day....!

yes we can=thank you santan!!!Remeber that lol

I'll do my best to remeber that nonssense.

Remeber two... the mind = a terible thing to waste.

Just to let everyone know -

I think it is wonderful that some people feel Obama is doing a great job and they are happy with him as president.

In my opinion there are CLEARLY (clearly, lol) vast, wide-open, practically endless, areas for improvement. I'm going to hold President Obama responsible for making POSITIVE changes for the betterment of this nation. I am NOT happy with the direction he is taking this nation, but I have the utmost respect for those who are happy.

Those who feel he is doing a great job and are happy with Obama?

OH HAPPY DAY!

April 29th will mark the first 100 days of the Obama presidency.

Oh happy day! O happy, happy day!

At least Bush is gone. I wonder how well he'd be doing about now... or if he *or his staff* would make things ever so much worse, as seemed to be his MO.

Why I'm mentioning him now is for comparison, and out of curiosity.

Nope, Obama isn't any superman, I just "hope" he has it together enough to pull some good results out of all the messes. At least he has the wit to make a try of it.

I think the most notable thing Obama has done, on a POSITIVE note (I had to dig deep, lol) was in naming Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.

He needed to put a quick leash on that dog to keep her out of traffic. If she gets too 'uppity' he can tell her to 'heel' in Korea or one of the 'stans. They eat dogs for lunch over there.

(This a highly strategic political move too often unnoticed. Gotta give credit where credit is due.)

Keep your friends close and enemies closer??

Ha, so true! ^ Hillary & Bill are a package deal to be kept under wraps.

No offense to anyone here, and I am NOT trying to start anything. But I am continually amused by people in real life who can't find anything positive to say about Obama, so they say something negative about Bush.

I must admit I goad them a little in asking... "What is so good about Obama?"

And they admit, unknowingly, with their answer that they don't see anything good about Obama. Because if they had anything good to say about Obama they would say it, but all they can find to say is something about Bush.

Hey... Obama is better than Adolph Hitler and Charles Manson too, aren't we glad those characters aren't president?

Sure is good to have Obama in there rather than Hitler or Manson... Oh Happy Day!

(Bush is history, lol, we as a nation have to get over it. )

Hey -

After what Bush went through as president, and with all of the shit Obama faces...

How f*cking L-U-C-K-Y was Bill Clinton? Were the stars shining down on his ass, or what?

LOL, Blowjob Bill sure had a cakewalk compared to what came next.

(Blowjob Bill came to my town while campaigning for his sow last year. He was bragging about how great he caused everything to be during his presidency, he talked about how Hillary was going to make everything great again, and he said it all with a straight face. As far as his sexual exploits and crazy bullshit went in the White House... I'll bet we only know the tip of the iceberg. How much do you think he pulled off that he didn't get caught for? He's a clever motherf*cker, lol. )

It's A Good Time To Work For Uncle Sam.

President Obama's call last year for "shared sacrifice" doesn't extend to federal employees, at least based on the details of his administration's 2010 budget released this week.

At a time when the official unemployment rate is nearing double digits, and 6.35 million people are receiving unemployment benefits, the U.S. government is on a hiring binge.

Executive branch employment 1.98 million in 2009, excluding the Postal Service and the Defense Department is set to increase by 15.6 percent for the 2010 fiscal year. Most of that is thanks to the Census Bureau hiring 102,000 temporary workers, but not counting them still yields a net increase of 2 percent in one year.

There's little belt-tightening in evidence in Washington, D.C.: Counting benefits, the average pay per federal worker will leap from $72,800 in 2008 to $75,419 next year.

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Most people in the USA get paid $72,800 per year, right?

And you're going to get a $2,500 raise no matter what the economy does, right?

OH HAPPY DAY...!!

Is Obama going to do ANYTHING he said during his campaign?

1. ) "We demand an immediate end to Bush's illegal war" - Obama, now president, has made the decision to follow the Bush doctrine. The Iraq war is still going, and additional troops have been sent to yet another country (A'stan).

2.) "Make public the photographs of the torture and mistreatment of prisoners." - Obama, now president, has made the decision to follow the Bush doctrine, the photos will not be released.

(Hillary was misled, Pelosi was misled... seems to be that if incompetent people are easily misled they need to either get their facts straight or resign from the positions which depend on them getting their facts straight. "I was misled!"... use that excuse anywhere else in society.)

President Obama has been accused of a major policy U-turn after he decided to restore the controversial military commissions set up by George Bush to prosecute terror suspects.

The surprise White House announcement reversed his campaign pledge to rely on the conventional court system.

"What happened to President Obama's confidence in the U.S. justice system's ability to try detainees? He himself said that 'we need not throw away 200 years of American jurisprudence while we fight terrorism.'

"U.S. federal courts are a perfectly sound system to try any and all detainees. They have brought other terror suspects to justice, and there is no reason why these courts cannot continue to do the same."

(Obama is scared now because if there is a terrorist strike in the U.S. due to his stupidity on how serious the terror threat really is, it will be his ass on the line.

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Soon the voters will be saying, "We were misled!".

Hillary and Pelosi will be saying, "Anytime someone does something stupid they can just say they were 'misled'... after all we did!"

(Hey, if that big hoopla in front of the Lincoln Memorial were being held tomorrow how many would be there? Would Bruce Springsteen be singing about his 'dream'? Would bono of U2 sing, "Let freedom ring?" Oh praise upon high this dawn of new era for all Americans... oh praise upon high the changes we will see... oh praise upon high the sheer gullibility of sooooo many people.

Like I said back on January 18th... let's celebrate AFTER there are some accomplishments, because right now I'm seeing Obama agree with almost every single major issue George W. Bush initiated. And we don't even need to mention the disappearance of $787 billion worth of tax dollars.

Some of the Obama backers had better come out and start saying 'enough is enough'.

As big a critic I am of G.W. Bush, I gotta respect the guy. While he didn't have the humility to admit when he was wrong, at least I never heard him try to blame others for misleading him. He stuck by what he did and didn't cave in to public opinion, and I gotta admit, I thought it was just plain stubbornness on his part, now I can actually appreciate the fact that he was man enough to stand by what he believed in. Not like these fair-weather screw-ups that support these "alternative interrogation techniques" then say they were "misled" when their support comes back to bite them in the a**. Heck, right about now, I can respect Dick Cheney more than I can respect Nancy Pelosi. The one I'd actually like to hear from now that he is no longer a part of the prez's cabinet is Donald Rumsfeld. I'd like to hear his true thoughts.

Barack is finding out The Oval Office is a lot different standing inside looking out than standing outside looking in. Or campaigning to get in. It's reality! Not the neo-lib dream world.

So true!!!

Obama found out today that although his bullshit rhetoric about closing down the Gitmo prison sounded good during his campaign lies, even the government democrats nixed the idea once the time came to actually do it.

The democrats were like, "Barack... we know it sounded like a good lie good before the election but don't start believing your own bullshit... pull your head out of your ass and face reality.... you think we really want those terrorists in the USA? Get a grip, fool!"

(Right up there with all of that head-up-ass talk about an immediate end to the Iraq War, lol.)

The celebration is over Barack, time to come back down to Earth.

There are indications that Obama's 'legacy' will be associated with the significant devaluation of the U.S. dollar.

The frivolous wasting of $787 billion during his first days in office was a devastating move.

All of the further wasteful spending after that, which continues, will make the dollar less desirable to the rest of the world.

Although Obama may feel it is okay to simply print up money at the mint when needed, this foolish tactic won't fool the rest of the world.

(And on a lesser note Obama will probably be remembered for criticizing everything about Bush during the Obama campaign, and then basically continuing everything Bush did during the Obama presidency, lol. )

"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot help little men by tearing down big men.

You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn.

You cannot build character and courage by destroying men's initiative and independence.

And you cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves."

William J. H. Boetcker, 1916

So what did y'all think of the Obama/Cheney match yesterday?

I'd say Cheney destroyed himself with his speech.

He sure didn't do Obama any damage...

On the other hand, slickster or not, Obama made good sense.

The campaigns over.(Already going for 2012?) Enough speeches. I and we know he (Barack) gives a good speech. Let's see action, and results. And again, who's Cheney and why's he relevant? This is the Obama/Biden/Clinton Administration/Era. It's all their puppy now. No more blaming the other guy's.

If the campaign is over, then tell Cheney to shut up and go home. Indeed, WHY is he shooting his mouth off? I know it makes good theatre for the media, but holy cow... the democrats couldn't have a better ally, actually.

As long as he remains in the spotlight, the heat is on.

The speech is very important, to shift away from the Bush/Cheney bs to a real American dialogue. We've been suckered so long we don't know which way is up.

He's doing fine so far.

So I take it you don't want to talk about the speeches?

If the campaign is over, then tell Cheney to shut up and go home. Indeed, WHY is he shooting his mouth off? I know it makes good theatre for the media, but holy cow... the democrats couldn't have a better ally, actually.

As long as he remains in the spotlight, the heat is on.

The speech is very important, to shift away from the Bush/Cheney bs to a real American dialogue. We've been suckered so long we don't know which way is up.

He's doing fine so far.

So I take it you don't want to talk about the speeches?

As far as that "blame" thing goes, they get the blame, period. They're f-ing guilty and should be prosecuted and jailed, Bush and Cheney both, and some of their crew.

Live with it.

Your right, Cheney needs to shut up and go home. And "He's doing fine so far". Everything is the same. What's changed beside the deficit growing by a trillion dollars? Unemployment still rising, forclosers increasing, still in Iraq till 2012,(Yea, right) but he bailed out the banks that will fail anyway. I don't want speeches, I want results.

Well, now you can add a democrat to the group of presidents who are responsible for 70% of the national debt: Reagan, Big Bush, and little Bush, and now Obama. I'm not happy about that either.

The bad stats are not entirely his fault, but if I can't point at the people responsible, so be it. But we know who they are, right?

The war is being shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan, where it should have stayed... an exit strategy would be good to have, though.

The stop-loss madness is ended, too late for some who've died or committed murder because they were so messed up, but it's ended.

Gitmo will be closed, I heartily agree with. Opening it in the first place was an end run around the constitution to begin with. Frankly, they'd have been wiser to have just shot all the inmates after interrogation and never opened it in the first place. That wouldn't be "right", but it at least would not be on public display for the world to see, and have fantasies about.

Economically, we're hosed unless we can reinvent what we lost with our manufacturing base, I at least see some "hope"ful moves being made.

I know, it's not all good.

And pardon me for spouting off up there, I'm kinda grumpy today.

"And again, who's Cheney and why's he relevant?" - shopstar

Cheney's the guy that ran this country for the past 8 years.....

Actually, I appreciate Cheney's rebuttal of Obama's address.... It's wonderful to live in a country where we actually have the RIGHT to get up on a soapbox and tell the President he is WRONG, whether he is or not. and btw, as much as i'd love to see Gitmo closed down and America living once again up to its values, I don't wanna see them terrorist f**kers brought onto our soil. lets figure out what to do with them before we just close down the prison.

Blame? Speeches? Past presidents? Past Vice-Presidents?

All intended to distract the mentally feeble in my opinion.

There's one (1) person responsible for getting America on track right now.

Is he doing it?

F*ck no.

Just my opinion.

If others feel Obama is doing a good job, I can respect their opinion - Oh Happy Day!!!

I think Obama has his entire head stuck up his ass with all of his spending, hiring of more and more government employees, and his bullshit speeches. I'd like to see him shut his f*cking face and get to work on REAL issues in this country like the Iraq war and unemployment (Gitmo prison is about 99 on the list of important topics).

Oh Happy Day!

"All intended to distract the mentally feeble in my opinion."

So he gave the speech because his democrats threw him under the bus on the funds to close gitmo, because they were afraid they'd be targeted in republican attack adds... which leads to attacks for giving the speech...

I agree. The reason for having to give the speech was Feeble.

The system is meant to cause us to turn away in confusion and dismay, or argue about irrelevant points and not to really solve anything.

What did the speech solve? Nothing. It DID sound good, I was happy to hear explanations for a few things. I like his reasoning on not torturing, and don't buy Cheney's.

I DO think he's getting us back on track morally, we aren't casual torturers.

Fixing the economy? As I've said before, that may not be possible at all for anybody.

Oh well. I just live here.

I dunno, for the worse, we caused the gitmo problem, I think we have to take the prisoners.

Although nobody has ever escaped from one of our supermax prisons, we could build a special one in, say, Alaska, way out in the sticks. How would that be?

Or, perhaps antarctica would be better... not in the US. expensive, but probably not as expensive as the crazy crap going on now I bet. They'd never, ever be able to get away...

Watch the free version of The Obama Deception down the right side of the page of this URL, anyone who still has an open mind, and then take stock of what you think afterwards. It certainly opened my eyes.

http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/obdedvd.html

Thanks for the link, Captain.

My own opinions don't reach quite as far as some of the accusations on the site, but I VERY much approve of ANY group that questions political leadership.

The thing that bothers me most about Obama is the blind acceptance and obedience he has garnered from WAY TOO MANY people.

Not enough people are standing up and taking Obama to task for his campaign lies, or asking him how the creation of more government jobs in the face of HIGH unemployment can work, and most of all - Obama blowing $787 billion with very little explanation.

When the democrats and the republicans fight for political power the entire U.S.A. loses.

'WE'RE OUT OF MONEY'

Sat May 23 2009 10:32:18 ET

In a sobering holiday interview with C-SPAN, President Obama boldly told Americans: "We are out of money."

C-SPAN host Steve Scully broke from a meek Washington press corps with probing questions for the new president.

SCULLY: You know the numbers, $1.7 trillion debt, a national deficit of $11 trillion. At what point do we run out of money?

OBAMA: Well, we are out of money now. We are operating in deep deficits, not caused by any decisions we've made on health care so far. This is a consequence of the crisis that we've seen and in fact our failure to make some good decisions on health care over the last several decades.

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Not long after blowing an unprecedented $787 billion on nothing, Obama admits we're out of money.

Is Obama trying to purposely bring down the United States of America?

(http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/obdedvd.html is looking more credible each day.)

"I VERY much approve of ANY group that questions political leadership." - tck_beachbum

Though not foolproof, the questioning of authority does help to curb its abuse by those who are unscrupulous. after all, power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama will meet Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in Riyadh next week to seek his support over the nuclear standoff with Iran and reviving the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

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Most middle eastern leaders are expected to meet with Obama and deliver a message...

"Mr. Obama... are you some kind of ego maniacal fool in coming over here to meddle in our affairs while your own country is in a shambles financially, politically, morally, and engaged in wars in two (2) different countries other than your own? Mr. Obama... truthfully... are you so mind numbing f*cking stupid that you can't pull your rabbit-eared head out of your own ass? Mr. Obama... you are quickly becoming a world laughingstock with all of your self-purported 'wisdom'. Go home, shit-for-brains, screw up your own country some more before 'advising' us on how to screw up ours... tell your lies to dumbass people who believe them."

The Incredible Shrinking Clintons

By Dick Morris

Posted: 05/26/09 05:22 PM [ET]

Asked why he was naming some of his rivals to top administration jobs, President Lyndon B. Johnson said it best: Id rather have them inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in. President Obama seems to echo Johnsons management style in his handling of Bill and Hillary Clinton. By bringing them into his inner circle, he has marginalized them both and sharply reduced their freedom of action.

It may appear odd to describe a secretary of State as marginalized, but Obama has surrounded Hillary with his people and carved up her jurisdiction geographically. Former Sen. George Mitchell (D-Maine) is in charge of Arab-Israeli relations. Dennis Ross has Iran. Former U.N. Ambassador Dick Holbrooke has Pakistan and Afghanistan. And Hillary has to share her foreign policy role on the National Security Council (NSC) with Vice President Biden, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, CIA chief Leon Panetta, and NSC staffer Samantha Powers (who once called Hillary a monster).

With peers who are competitors and subordinates who can deal directly with the president, Hillary is reduced to announcing foreign aid packages for Pakistan while Holbrooke does the heavy lifting.

Part of Hillarys problem is the institutional shrinking of the State Department. During the Bush years, while war raged, the Defense Department became more relevant to the conduct of foreign policy. And, under Obama, the financial crisis has propelled the Treasury into the forefront. State, with its emphasis on traditional diplomacy, has been forced to take a back seat. Even though Obama appointed Hillary, he clearly has not been willing to make her a co-president and confines her to the diminished role of her department.

For his part, Bill Clinton has been asked to be a special envoy to Haiti. Yes, Haiti. Obamas predecessor asked the former president to orchestrate the response to the Asian tsunami and then to Hurricane Katrina. Obama gives him Haiti.

Meanwhile, both Clintons are effectively muzzled and cannot criticize Obama even as he reverses President Clintons free market proclivities and budget balancing discipline. Hillary, the supposed friend of Israel, must sit by quietly and watch Iran get the bomb while trying all the while to stop Israel from preventing it.

Bill cant even make money. Denied the ability to accept speeches from foreign governments or their organs and fenced out of continuing his profitable relationship with the Emir of Dubai, he and his wife must accept the loss of the $13 million they spent on her campaign and sit by passively, unable to earn the money to replace it.

Just as Lincoln buried his rivals Seward, Chase and Stanton in the Cabinet and then on the Supreme Court, and Wilson buried Bryan at the State Department, so Obama has hidden his predecessor and his rival in plain sight at the upper reaches of the government.

How long will Hillary subject herself to this discipline? Likely as long as Obama is popular. Should his ratings fade, she might move away from the president and could even consider a primary contest against him in 2012. But while he is on top of his game, shell stay loyal.

But she is shrinking by the day. Once Obamas equal and before that his superior she now looks tiny compared to the president. She doesnt look like a president in waiting; shes more like a senior staff member hoping to rise in the bureaucracy. No longer at the head of a movement or the symbol of rising women all over the world, she has faded into the State Department woodwork. She is much less visible than her predecessors Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, James Baker, Madeleine Albright or Condi Rice. She is even less in the public eye than was Al Haig during his one-year tenure. One has to go back to the likes of Warren Christopher or William Rogers to find a secretary of State as far down the totem poll. This diminished status has got to grate on her and on him. But they are trapped in Obamas web and cannot easily escape.

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I think it is funny as hell how Obama put a muzzle on the Clinton mutts.

The once proud battle-ax Hillary reduced to being a delivery girl?

The once high and mighty ex-president Bill reduced to being an envoy to (lol) Haiti????

(And the mutts didn't even see it coming, LOL. )

I think the Chicago Bears' day has passed, they don't seem very good anymore.

with the us government poised to assume 75% control of GM -- a move that takes a huge bite out of free enterprise, mind you, but heres the real kicker -- GM plans to ship many jobs overseas. All this after Obama gave us all his rhetoric about knowing what its like to see jobs moving out. By 2012, with any luck, Americans will be so disgusted with the communists -- I mean -- Democrats, they will likely vote Republican...... lets just hope the GOP steps up to the plate this time.

Obama says Iran has a right to nuclear power as long as they can prove the nuclear technology is not for weaponry purposes.

Interesting angle... I like it.

I wonder if Iran will fall for it... or tell Obama to kiss ass...?

Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs.

By BRETT BLACKLEDGE, Associated Press Writer Brett Blackledge, Associated Press Writer Mon Jun 8, 7:01 am ET

WASHINGTON President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.

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YAY..!!! JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.... get out those lawnmowers and paint brushes, lol.

All of you Obama supports need to know that temporary summer jobs for kids are 'jobs'.

(You thought the $787 billion was going to create 'real' permanent jobs? Sorry... that bullshit talk was right up there with 'an immediate end to Bush's illegal war'.)

Obama is considering sending Al 'the bore' Gore over to North Korea to try and secure the release of some journalists.

This might be a good plan actually... because the Goracle could bore the North Koreans to death and they might just give up the journalists if AlGore will just please leave.

(Additional note - AlGore is considering rowing a boat to North Korea to prevent any global warming as a result of his trip. )

Seems Obama IS capable of a few surprises:

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By Ryan J. Foley, The Associated Press

GREEN BAY, Wisconsin - Ten-year-old Kennedy Corpus has a rock-solid excuse for missing the last day of school: a personal note to her teacher from President Barack Obama.

Her father, John Corpus of Green Bay, stood to ask Obama about health care during the president's town hall-style meeting at Southwest High School on Thursday. He told Obama that his daughter was missing school to attend the event and that he hoped she didn't get in trouble.

"Do you need me to write a note?" Obama asked. The crowd laughed, but the president was serious.

On a piece of paper, he wrote: "To Kennedy's teacher: Please excuse Kennedy's absence. She's with me. Barack Obama." He stepped off the stage to hand-deliver the note - to Kennedy's surprise.

"I thought he was joking until he started walking down," Kennedy said after the event, showing off the note in front of a bank of television cameras. "It was like the best thing ever."

The student at Aldo Leopold elementary in Green Bay already knew what she was going to do with the note: frame it along with her ticket to the event. She said she'd make a copy for her teacher.

Kennedy said she had never seen Obama before. "He's really nice," she said.

("He's really nice" she said.), So was Millard Fillmore.

Bump

It takes a mega-maniacal self-seeking ego-inflated guy like Obama to make ex-President Bush look good, lol!

And he's doing it.

Quite a few people right now are talking about how all Bush ever did was start a war.

Meanwhile Obama is blowing a trillion dollars, creating 'czars', declaring his own wisdom to be the answer, and screwing up businesses that the government is totally ill-prepared to even begin to operate.

Oh Happy Day... still...?

More of what he ^ said

http://thepage.time.com/2009/06/14/stimulus-apologies/

Duh!!!!!!!........kinda like a garden hose on a house fire.......

I used to hear the phrase, "Well, at least Bush is gone...", a lot.

Haven't been hearing it as much lately.

Having lived in close proximity to Venezuela for over 2 years, I can say that this is the kind of activity that I've see Hugo Chavez partake. Some would call it an abuse of power. I'm not sayin that our man is on this path but this did make an eyebrow go up.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-tc-nw-inspectors-0617-0618jun18,0,5718990.story

"I used to hear the phrase, "Well, at least Bush is gone...", a lot." - tck_beachbum

Actually some of us are saying "man, I miss Bush, at least he could make me laugh... this guy just scares me."

"As a senator, Barack Obama denounced the Bush administration for holding "secret energy meetings" with oil executives at the White House. But last week public-interest groups were dismayed when his own administration rejected a Freedom of Information Act request for Secret Service logs showing the identities of coal executives who had visited the White House to discuss Obama's "clean coal" policies."

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Is Obama EVER going to anything he said he was gonna do during his campaign?

We thought that Bush 'might have lied' about the WMD... but there is no doubt that Obama lied many times over.

I think it is just Obama's nature to say one thing and do another.

He's a politician what do you expect? Honesty?

Andrea Tantaros , Conservative Commentator - FOXNews.com - June 21, 2009

Health Care Will End Obama's Honeymoon

The politician who has been billed as "untouchable" will soon be revealed for what he is: an amateur who lacks the credible answers and the ability to really lead.

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Obama had better call for another 'inaugural' pep rally at the Lincoln Memorial.

Some people are realizing he is just a bullshit artist. They're not afraid to say it.

Dont give him any other expensive ideas

All is well, after all - Bush is gone, right?.

Obama ran on the 'Bush will be gone' primary objective platform, lol.

And the unemployed masses shouted, "Yes, yes... make Bush be gone, save us!"

(All the while not realizing that Bush would be gone anyhow, lol.)

Obama accomplished the primary objective (no matter that whoever ran for president, even Micky Mouse, would have accomplished the 'objective' by default, lol. ) and the people bowed to their superior savior.

So the unemployed masses got what they wanted and they're happy... um... right?

Bush is gone! Bush is gone! Rejoice! All is well!

Oh Happy Day...!

(And slowly, as they awakened from under park benches and bridges, across the streets from the homes they used to own, down the street from the empty factories where they used to work, they brushed the dirt from their clothes, nodded silently to one another and proclaimed... "Bush is gone... Bush is gone... all is well!" But some began to awaken as non-believers... some began to think the unthinkable... a conspiracy began when the thought came to mind... "So what if Bush is gone... what difference does he make NOW... NOW... NOW..."

Some may want to wake up and go back to sleep, LOL.

Hey, can we get everyone back together on the Lincoln Memorial steps to celebrate Obama's first 6 months in office?

"Bush is gone, Bush is gone, Bush is gone, the skies have cleared, nothing but sunshine and happiness for all! Oh Happy Day, Oh Happy, Happy Fvcking Day!!!"

. . . .

Are the sheep looking at each other sheepishly... nodding in silent assent to one another that they will never be so gullible and quick to 'celebrate nothing' ever again?

Some of the sheep will undoubtedly scowl... and mutter (muttonously), "Well... the important thing is that Bush is gone...", as they eat grass.

Economy sucks, STILL. Approval rating (Obama) going steady south. Talk of another stimulus bill. 200 days and what? He has to run and compare himself to himself now. the other guys are gone. Welcome to the Oval Office, Barrack! Enjoy your probably short stay. This is shaping up to be another Jimmy Carter presidency. Four years later and everyone you spoke too said, "I didn't vote for him." Someone did, LOL

Wow......seeing all these lumped together really struck a nerve........O Happy Day!!!

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special

> Olympics,

>> would you have approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and

>> incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a

> thoughtful and

>> historically significant gift, would you have approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing

> videos

>> of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly

> narcissistic

>> and tacky?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you

> have

>> approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the

>> non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a

> minor slip?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with

>> people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would

> you have

>> approved?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to

> "Cinco de

>> Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of

> May

>> (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would

> you

>> have winced in embarrassment?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word advice would you have

> hammered

>> him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as "proof" of what a

>

>> dunce he is?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a

>> single tree on "Earth Day", would you have concluded he's a

> hypocrite?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying

> low

>> over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown

> Manhattan

>> causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they

> actually "get"

>> what happened on 9-11?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter

>

>> installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you

> have laughed

>> and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is

> really

>> controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

>>

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims

>> throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than

> in New Orleans

>> , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with

> claims

>> of racism and incompetence?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major

>> corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,

> would you have

>> approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had

>

>> taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you

> have

>> approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within

> 10

>> years, would you have approved?

>>

>>

>> If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM

> stock

>> by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have

>> approved?

>>

>> If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take

> Laura

>> Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

>>

>> So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant

> and

>> impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this

> in 5

>> months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with

> an

>> answer.

Well...

Obama is now a Chia pet!

http://www.chiaobama.com/

Remember "Where's Waldo?"

Well now we have "Where's Barack?"... especially when there's work to be done?

*** Maybe Barack is flying to NYC with his wife to enjoy a play (probably has the whole theater to himself cuz no one else can afford it, lol).

*** Or maybe Barack is in Ghana? Ghana is important to U.S. issues, isn't it? No? Someone had better tell Barack. Ghana?

*** Where's Barack? Barack is wherever important issues aren't...!

Do any of the Lincoln memorial hoopla celebrants feel the celebration was productive?

Someone needs to convince Barack it is time to go to work now. It appears that more than 10% of his followers don't work these days (unemployment), but Barack doesn't have to join them on unemployment everyday.

Oh Happy Day...? Hope? A New Era? You got the change you were expecting though, that's for sure!

This week as thousands more Americans lost their jobs due to layoffs...

Barack 'Obooboo' Obama was meddling in police affairs and declaring how his health insurance agenda would be successful - no research or evidence, just his declaration, ala the 'stimulus' (joke) package.

Barack... could ya do just a little bit to bring some of those evil, greedy businesses and corporations back?

We know those evil employers are no longer 'exploiting the labor' of the workers... as the workers are now jobless.

(Will there soon be another party at the Lincoln Memorial asking President Bush to come back, lol?)

Oh happy day...?

Its high time for the government to back off on the economy. If history has taught us anything, its that too much government involvement will do more harm than good. The Great Depression was really just two recessions separated by a recovery. Roosevelt did so much to recover us from the 1929 recession that the inflation, deficits, and higher taxes drove us right into another one. If this admin is not careful, it can happen again. That is, if it is not too late already.

"The first family is planning to rent a $20 million, 28-acre farm in the Chilmark section of Martha's Vineyard for a summer vacation next month, the Vineyard Gazette reported Friday. Here, President Barack Obama walks down a beach in Kailua, Hawaii, with his girls during the family's 2008 summer trip."

How worried can he be?

Obama recently stated that he inherited the war and economy issues.

I could have sworn he begged, pleaded, and campaigned, to willingly accept these issues.

And that he not only willingly accepted these issues, but he vowed to resolve the issues.

I guess my memory just isn't serving me right these days... I could have sworn though...

(Go on vacation, asshole, you're the third in a line of self-serving lying, conniving presidents.)

House Orders Up Three Elite Jets.

August 5, 2009, By Paul Singer, Roll Call Staff

Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.

But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.

The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.

But the House Appropriations Committee, at its own initiative, added to the 2010 Defense appropriations bill another $132 million for two more airplanes and specified that they be assigned to the D.C.-area units that carry Members of Congress, military brass and top government officials.

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Oh happy day...! If you're with the new jet-set government crowd... lol.

One of those Gulfstreams might be named "Nancy 1"?

I never dreamed Obama could divide the nation as he has.

Harvard University must be sorely embarrassed to have graduated such a fool.

Let's see... They had 7 buses of shipped in Obama supporters, then the girl that asked the questions about the "mean signs outside" just happened to have her picture taken With Obama at his inauguration. Now you don't think that was a setup do you? I mean really, being labeled as anti- American, why would that interesting tidbit raise my eyebrows????

Just so people understand where I am coming from: I don't like big government. I would like to see them fix medicare before they do health care. I don't see why the rush. Debate can be a good thing, but I understand why people are screaming. You get brushed off enough by our public servants (Yes, Sheheen brushed me off and she also brushed off a reporter) and you might scream in the frustration.

I will say that MSNBC (Morning Joe) Had a Congresswoman on this a.m. She and I may not agree, but I will respect that woman for the rest of my life simply because she listened to her people. She didn't put them down or have them expelled from her meeting. It was refreshing to hear her talk about debate being what was needed. Understanding and eventually compromise would come. Kudos to her!

Then I need to check out Diane Rehm's show. What I heard this morning in her discussion with this gentleman was another awesome and thought provoking discourse. Enough so that I want to get his book. LOL, I just need to get the info I missed.

Ok got the info:

Peter Berger: "In Praise of Doubt" (HarperOne)

Peter Berger, Sociologist; faculty member at Boston University; founder of Boston University's Institute of Culture, Religion, and World Affairs; author of many books, including "The Social Construction of Reality," "The Homeless Mind," and "Questions of Faith."

Thought this was pretty awesome...........

This is one of those "sad, but very true. . ." observations. Worth

reading and putting in perspective.

From a teacher in the Nashville area "We are worried about "the

cow" when it is all about the "Ice Cream"

The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching

third grade this year.

The presidential election was heating up and some of the children

showed an interest. I decided

we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our

nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would

vote. To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other

class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these

students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie

and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot. The class had done a

great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.

I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of

parental support.

I had never seen Olivia's mother.

The day arrived when they were to make their speeches. Jamie went

first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better

place. He ended by promising to do his very best.

Everyone applauded and he sat down.

Now it was Olivia's turn to speak. Her speech was concise. She

said, "If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream."

She sat down.

The class went wild. "Yes! Yes! We want ice cream."

She surely would say more. She did not have to.

A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream?

She wasn't sure. Would her

parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn't know. The

class really didn't care. All they

were thinking about was ice cream.

Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.

Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream and 52

percent of the people reacted like nine year olds.

They want ice cream. The other 48 percent know they're going to

have to feed the cow and clean up the mess."

Remember, the government cannot give anything to anyone --- that they

have not first taken away from someone else.

After spending weeks dogging George W. Bush's presidential vacations, anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan is now trying to make life uncomfortable for President Barack Obama.

Sheehan used to pitch a peace camp near Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, becoming a symbol of the anti-war movement after her son Casey died in action in Iraq.

On Thursday, she and a band of anti-war protesters turned up outside the media center used by journalists covering Obama's vacation on the well-heeled east coast resort island of Martha's Vineyard.

"The reason I am here is because ... even though the facade has changed in Washington DC, the policies are still the same," Sheehan told a handful of journalists, against a backdrop of her "Camp Casey" banner.

She told US peace activists to wake up and protest Obama's escalation of the war in Afghanistan, and complained that despite the president's anti-war stance, US troops remained in Iraq.

Wonder who she voted for last November..........

I heard she voted for Elmo...

Actually Robbie, I wonder if she did or didn't vote. There had been a group trying to get people to boycott the last election. It was an interesting theory. If everyone refused to vote, what would happen to "the government?"

The electorial would still vote and the Monster Machine would roll on........

Personally I think she should fly to Iraq or Afghanistan and protest their governments and officials........While she's there, the CIA should steal her passport and then she'd only be a memory.....

True, true... Imagine what it would be like if we had a recall vote? If every elected official knew that the marjority was not in favor of something that the official was in favor of, would the ignore the majority if they could be recalled?

Tip of the iceberg or an isolated case?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08282009/news/regionalnews/oops__charlie_forgot_this_1m_house_186849.htm

In Arizona, they have a recall policy..... They were initially denied statehood because of it, so they repealed it only to put it back in after they became a state. And, yes, I think it is a good policy to have.... These politicians would at least think twice if they knew they could lose their job at any time..... right now, winning the election is like signing a union contract.... guaranteed to keep your job for x number of years.

P.S. along with the recall policy it should also revoke any pensions or retirement and/or benefit/severance packages as well so they will not be better off losing their jobs.

Obama to workers: We'll help you save!

President announces measures to make it easier to save more. One new idea: Turn tax refunds into savings bonds.

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The benevolent savior Obama is here to help you people yet again. If you are too fvcking dumb to buy savings bonds by yourself, he has a plan to buy them for you, using your money.

Now it will be easier to save more! (Huh? how is that 'easier' to save more? LOL)

Instead of getting YOUR money, that the gov't takes from YOUR paycheck, BACK from the gov't, he wants you to let the gov't keep YOUR money for you.

(Help finance the next $787 billion 'bailout, lol...!)

You have got to be kidding! There are people who are flat-out depending on their tax refunds! A savings bond ain't gonna do them a damn bit of good.... As a rule of thumb, people who do not have savings bonds do not have them because they do not have the luxury of purchasing them, as they depend on every dime they have! It's time to start calling for this guy's impeachment. I am getting so tired of that subversive fvck in the white house.

Tck, relax, its just an option. Upon further review of that proposal, I found that he is not forcing us to take a savings bond, but giving us the option. If you are not depending on that money, it makes sense to take the savings bond instead of taking the money, going to the bank and purchasing a savings bond.... Now look at me, I'm rebutting my own posts. And tck I'm sure you're laughing your ass off about that.

There was never any mention of forcing the bond option.

I am relaxed, lol, I am fully aware of the value of a bank CD vs. a U.S. Savings Bond.

Especially in light of the U.S. government's credit rating.

Obama's plan is to get a tiny portion of the American public -- the wealthy -- to pay higher taxes for the benefit of the majority. Hey, while we're at it, let's see if we can convince 1% of the population to bear the entire responsibility for fighting two open-ended wars that are supposedly in the interest of every American. It would just be too uncomfortable to tell the middle class that if they want something, they need to earn it themselves.

Earn it? Americans are entitled to it, what's this earn shit? That's not fair.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Five states posted jobless rates above 12% in August, according to federal data released Friday.

California, Nevada and Rhode Island each hit record-high rates, the Labor Department said.

Michigan led the nation in unemployment, with a rate of 15.2%, while Nevada was next at 13.2% and Rhode Island was third at 12.8%. California and Oregon were tied for the fourth spot, each with unemployment at 12.2%.

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Yes we can!

Vote for change!

Obama means hope!

What do the unemployment numbers really mean to Obama? It means more people will be able to attend the next 'celebration' (celebrating 'hope' and 'change') at the Lincoln Memorial without missing work.

OH HAPPY DAY! OH HAPPY, HAPPY DAY!

obama's only been in office a little over 8 months. so you can mot blame this on Obama. try giving some of the blame to bush,

What exactly can Bush do about it? DUH

I could care less about who is to blame, I want to see some action from those in charge. You focus on history, I'm focusing on the here & now, lol.

What can Obama do about it?

Obama can create a more "business & industry friendly" atmosphere here in the United States. Don't threaten to saddle businesses with higher, and higher, and higher employee costs. Realize that workers are going to have to take a pay cut in order for there to be jobs. Worry about pay increases later.

Right now business & industry aren't trying to decide where is the least expensive STATE to do business in.... they're trying to decide where is the least expensive COUNTRY to do business in... and guess what? It isn't the United States.

Fools continually mention Bush, yet Bush can do nothing, right?

(The above post was deleted because it was a (ignorant) repeat of his previous post.)

For anyone able to comprehend written words - I'm not interested in who was to blame.

I'm interested in focusing on those who can fix the problems, specifically the current president.

(Mental retardation = watching a fire burn your house, with concern only for who started the fire, and no concern for putting out the fire. )

"You focus on history, I'm focusing on the here & now, lol. "

Focus on both. That way we won't repeat the incredibly stupid, incompetent moves the Bush/Cheney admin made, and perhaps we can salvage something out of the Obama admin. If he's gonna be a one-term pres, he needs to pick a goal and get it done. I'd pick health-care, and ram it through. His opponents are in total disarray and sounding pretty funny, if one really looks at the situation. Just my opinion.

Good opinion Kee, respectable.

My concerns are that when a dead body is shipped back from Iraq, people say "Bush started the war". The next day another dead body gets shipped back.

My concerns are that when 100,000 peoples' unemployment runs out, people will say "Bush screwed up the economy". The next day more people will be without a check.

This 'stock' reply about Bush will be of no comfort or solace to those who lose family members, and those without unemployment benefits.

Someday, hopefully sooner than later, we as a nation, have to get over Bush.

(We're not going to be able to keep future presidents from getting a blowjob in the oval office and we're not going to be able to keep future Bush's and Hillary's from voting for wars. And I'm not certain that is where focus should be right now, currently as soldiers die and people lose unemployment benefits.)

But there is no right or wrong thinking, it just depends on where someone's priorities lie (except in 48mrg's case - he's pretty much braindead).

WILMINGTON, Ohio (Reuters) Unemployment in this small U.S. town has quadrupled in the past 16 months, but worse is to come as thousands of unemployed workers run out of severance money and benefits.

"Things are going to get tighter around here toward the end of the year," said David Raizk, mayor of this town of 12,000 in southwestern Ohio. "As benefits run out we're going to see a greater and greater dependence on the aid that's available."

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Tell these folks who is/was to blame, and then explain that other issues are more important?

The good news is that all of these people will be able to attend the next "Oh Happy Day!" celebration.

(No one's worried about missing work. )

Oh Happy Day...!

With all the walkin around on the Bush crutch, it's got to be takin on some wear. hee hee , point the finger. Not us, not us, it was him.

hey surfer dude in my reply did i call you names i don't think i did.but i will now.unlike you i served my country. wow you were in air force so was bush. did you go to drill. or were you like bush. i often laugh at people like you. your all for great country of America. till its time to serve it. but i guess that's today's youth. talk real big. but don't have the stones to back it up. go hang out on the beach. let the real men do the job.

The question here should not be "Who did it?" but "What are we going to do to solve it?". Just because "Bush started it" doesn't mean it is not OUR problem to solve.

gtr420, I agree - but how long before the mentally challenged masses figure that out?

Most every time the war is mentioned some genius brings up Bush. Duh.

It's like, "Obama didn't start the war so he's not responsible for it now", OH HAPPY HAPPY DAY!

The 4 million for consultants made me laugh. Very brazen our government.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090930/pl_politico/27732

New Obama billboard on highway in Missouri.

http://www.kctv5.com/news/21176602/detail.html

Oh happy day, oh happy, happy day..!

Yes we can!

Vote for change!

Party at the Lincoln Memorial!

Celebrate something, anything... nothing, lol.

(Next time they have a celebration no one will have to miss work!)

The Air Force doesn't have soldiers, retarded ass, lol.

Liberals Increasingly Frustrated With Obama's Style and Performance.

Liberal commentators from Saturday Night Live comedians to newspaper columnists to bloggers to gay activists have portrayed President Obama as a do-nothing president and "whiner-in-chief," expressing a growing concern that the president is not showing enough spine.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, October 14, 2009

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Obama is a poser, he's in way over his head, and he is seriously wondering if he should have ever run for president.

He's wishing he could be a Community Organizer again I'm sure.........

faggot alert

http://www.gay.com/profile/view/basic.do

You know, tck, you should leave his post up- everyone is going to wonder just why it is he's trolling the gay websites, anyway- LOL

just trying to let you know he is a lie bye crackwhore

It would seem obvious (to anyone but you), that if I'm fat, as you say, AND a "crack whore"...well, the two simply don't go together.

But then...I guess if you had more than one, feeble brain cell, we'd all have to assume you were pregnant, now wouldn't we?!

all i can say to you. you are the one who start this shit fat crack whore now fly away bitch. you got to be the sleazes whore i have seen in along time. you and your punk old man are nothing more the a piece of shit bye whore.

Now now little Gary, take your bottle of milk off to bed with you, before you get yourself in a big emotional tizzy, and chew the rubber nipple all to shreds.

lol- there is absolutely nothing "sleazy" about me, hahaha--your way of "battling", Gary, leaves no doubt that you are probably nothing more than an uneducated, belittling, bullying dolt. (Look it up...dictionary.com)

Now go get your broom, and get back to work.

broom? i wouldnt trust a dolt with a broom

ok...

I thought this forum was about Obama??? Mostie, Tck, Spart and everyone else are Obama???

I knew the man was a chameleon, I just didn't realize he could spoof people so well!

are you saying Obama is not a dolt?

Here's more of that hope and change thingy.........

Federal deficit triples from year ago

Recession, cost of financial bailout leads to record $1.42 trillion imbalance

Federal budget deficit hits $1.42 trillion

Oct. 16: The federal government says the national deficit has ballooned due to falling tax revenue and spending on the stimulus and stabilization efforts for the banking system.

updated 2:26 p.m. MT, Fri., Oct . 16, 2009

WASHINGTON - The federal budget deficit has surged to an all-time high of $1.42 trillion as the recession caused tax revenues to plunge while the government was spending massive amounts to stabilize the financial system and jump-start the economy.

The imbalance for the budget year ended Sept. 30 more than tripled last year's record. The Obama administration projects deficits will total $9.1 trillion over the next decade unless corrective action is taken.

As a portion of the economy, the budget deficit stood at 10 percent, the highest since World War II, according to government data released Friday.

Failure to curb runaway deficits could trigger a financial train wreck that would push interest rates and inflation higher, and send the dollar crashing if foreigners suddenly started dumping their holdings of Treasury securities.

None of those problems are evident now as the worst recession since the 1930s has depressed borrowing by consumers and businesses, giving the government a break on the interest it paid this year on the record debt. Net interest payments actually fell by about $10 billion in 2009 from 2008.

But economists worry investors will grow fearful of the nation's ability to repay all the debt unless the administration and Congress begin developing credible plans to deal with the deficit problem once the recession has ended and unemployment has begun to come down.

President Barack Obama has pledged to reduce the deficit once the recession ends and the unemployment rate starts falling. But economists worry the government lacks the will to make the hard political choices to cut spending and raise taxes to get control of the imbalances.

For 2009, the government collected $2.10 trillion in revenues, a 16.6 percent drop from 2008. The plunge reflected declining income tax collections as millions of Americans lost their jobs or saw their wages cut. Corporate taxes also plummeted as the recession squeezed companies' profit margins.

Government spending last year jumped to $3.52 trillion, up 18.2 percent over 2008. The $700 billion financial bailout fund and increased spending and tax relief from the $787 billion economic stimulus program that Obama pushed through Congress in February drove the increase.

Finding a 'fiscally sustainable path'

For September, a month when the government usually records surpluses, the deficit totaled $46.6 billion. That's a sharp contrast to the $45.7 billion surplus in September 2008, the last time the government's books were in the black.

In issuing the final budget figures, top administration officials said the president was determined to get control of the deficits in coming years.

"It was critical that we acted to bring the economy back from the brink earlier this year," White House budget director Peter Orszag said in a statement. "The president recognizes that we need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path."

Oregon Unemployment rate in October 2008 was 7.3%, 12.4% in May of 2009 unemployment rate now 11.5%. Yeah that empty suit is supposed to be a savior for the country.

Hi GTR!

The resident troll is a dolt, Obama is not. Obama if he was a blue dog Dem would be maintaining his approval ratings. The Dems I know seem to think this shows they were right about Hillary. They are regretting their party putting the wrong person in the WH.

When you start losing the Clinton supporters... you are heading for deep doodoo.

The media got their candidate elected. Now evey some of them are abandoning ship.

Oh No......not another broken campaign promise..........

Key trio now leading closed talks on health bill

The small group of lawmakers behind process is drawing GOP criticism

By Perry Bacon Jr.

updated 38 minutes ago

Three months before he was elected president, Barack Obama vowed not only to reform health care but also to pass the legislation in an unprecedented way.

"I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table," he said at an appearance in Chester, Va., repeating an assertion he made many times. He said the discussions would be "televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies."

But now, as a Senate vote on health-care legislation nears, those negotiations are occurring in a setting that is anything but revolutionary in Washington: Three senators are working on the bill behind closed doors.

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) sits at the head of a wooden table at his office as he and Sens. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.) work to merge two competing versions of health-care legislation into one bill. The three men will be joined by top aides as well as by members of President Obama's health-care team, led by White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. The sessions started on Wednesday and could be completed this week.

For the complete article.....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33365442/ns/politics-washington_post/

The above is disappointing........but scary at the same time. Just the fact that Baucus makes up 1/3 of "the team" has me nervous.......

Just saw where Obama was nominated for the Heisman Trophy. He watched a college game Saturday.

LOL

White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview.

The Obama administration on Thursday tried to make "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the White House pool except Fox News. But the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks decided that none of their reporters would interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

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Obama wants to control what the media reports, and Fox News gets a little too close to the truth about Obama.

FVCK YOU, OBAMA...!

Even competitors of FoxNews won't back you on that communist tactic.

White House attacks worry moderate Dems.

A White House effort to undermine conservative critics is generating a backlash on Capitol Hill and not just from Republicans.

"It's a mistake", said Rep. Jason Altmire, a moderate Democrat from western Pennsylvania. "I think its beneath the White House to get into a **** for tat with news organizations."

Altmire was talking about the Obama administrations efforts to undercut Fox News. But he said his remarks applied just the same to White House efforts to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a powerful business lobby targeted for its opposition to climate change legislation.

"Theres no reason to gratuitously piss off all those companies," added another Democrat, Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia. "The Chamber isnt an opponent."

Dude, talk about a guy on a power trip! Even armed with an unrestricted PATRIOT Act, Bush didn't even attempt that. I think this guy has a little too much power for his own good. I think its time we sent this jerk packing along with his change.... I'd rather keep my freedom and my money

1-year poll shows changed views on Obama.

By Susan Page, USA TODAY.

GRAND LEDGE, Mich. Shannon Norris thinks President Obama deserves more time to deliver on his promises from last year's campaign. But not too much more.

"Everybody today in the United States is looking to point a finger for the problems," the teacher says as she takes a break from running the 4-H petting zoo at the annual fall festival in this leafy Michigan town of 9,000 just west of Lansing. "Well, the problems started long before (Obama) got into office. It's too soon."

On the other hand, three years after she got her master's degree in education, Norris, 38, who voted for Obama, is just scraping by on $75-a-day substitute-teaching jobs. With the housing market down, she and her husband, Jerry, owe more on their home than it's worth.

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Give Obama more time, he just needs more time.... you hope, lol.

Hope ain't feeding the dog is it? Hope isn't paying the mortgage is it?

When you're done with 'hope', ask Obama to do something other than hope.

ACTION IS NEEDED.

In Iowa, Second Thoughts on Obama.

By JEFF ZELENY, Published: November 2, 2009

WILLIAMSBURG, Iowa Pauline McAreavy voted for President Obama. From the moment she first saw him two years ago, she was smitten by his speeches and sold on his promise of change. She switched parties to support him in the Iowa caucuses, donated money and opened her home to a pair of young campaign workers.

But by the time she received a fund-raising letter last month from the Democratic National Committee, a sense of disappointment had set in. She returned the solicitation with a handwritten note, saying, "Until I see some progress and he lives up to his promises in Iowa, we will not give one penny."

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Obama is becoming known as the "You Lie!" president.

"Obama is becoming known as the "You Lie!" president. "

Not another one! We go through this every election and people fall for it every time.

That's what a campaign is all about. Most people don't want the truth. They vote for the rosy picture. As plastic as the credit cards they walk on.

When are people going to learn reality. A president is one man. If he was king it would be different. This is not about Obama. It's about the fact that lies are the status quo and change happens slowly. 4 years is a drop in the bucket.

Let me see if I got this. A political candidate being somewhat less that forthright on the campaign trail? Say it aint so! This has got to be a first in American politics.

Go Joe Wilson...!

Republicans took two out of three high profile mid-term elections..... all of which, had democrats Obama endorsed. Looks like people are pulling the wool from their eyes.

Got this in an email and thought it was great.........are YOU falling for it???

Subject: "That will never happen in America!"

What would you say if I gave you 11 reasons why the elections in 2010 will be the most important in the history of the United States ?

1. What if I had told you in October2008, before the last presidential election, that before Barack Obama's first 100 days in office, the Federal government would be in control of both the mortgage and thebanking industries? That 19 of America 's largest banks would be forced to undergo stress tests by the federal government which would determine if they were insufficiently capitalized, so they must be supervised by the government?

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America ."

2. What if I had told you that within Barack Obama's first100 days in office the Federal government would be thelargest shareholder in the US Big-Three automakers: GM,and Chrysler? That the government would kick out the CEO'sof these companies and appoint hand-picked executives with zero experience in the Auto Industry and that executive compensation would be determined, not by a Board of Directors, but by the government?

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America !"

3. What if I had told you that Barack Obama would appoint 32Czars, without Congressional approval, accountable only tohim, not to the voters, who would have control over a widerange of US policy decisions. That there would be a Stimulus Accountability Czar, an Urban Czar, a Compensation Czar, anIran Czar, an Auto Industry Czar, a Cyber Security Czar, anEnergy Czar, a Bank Bailout Czar, and more than a dozen other government bureaucrats with unchecked regulatory powers over US domestic and foreign policy.

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America !"

4. What if I had told you that the Federal deficit would be$915 billion in the first six months of the Obama presidency- with a projected annual deficit of $1.75 trillion -triple the $454.8 billion in 2008, for which the previous administration was highly criticized by Obama and his fellow Democrats. That congress would pass Obama's $3.53trillion Federal budget for fiscal 2010... That the projected deficit over the next ten years would be greater than $10 trillion.

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America !"

5. What if I had told you that the Obama Justice Department would order FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high-value detainees captured on the battlefield and held at US military detention facilities in Afghanistan. That Obama would order the closing of the Guantanamo detention facility with no plan for the disposition of the 200-plus individuals held there. That several of the suspected terrorists at Guantanamo would be sent to live in freedom in Bermuda atthe expense of the US government.. That our returning US veterans would be labeled terrorists and put on a watchlist.

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America !"

6. What if I had told you that the Federal government would seek powers to seize key companies whose failures could jeopardize the financial system. That a new regulatory agency would be proposed by Obama to control loans, creditcards, mortgage-backed securities, and other financial products offered to the public.

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen inAmerica !!"

7. What if I had told you that Obama would travel to the Middle East, bow before the Saudi king, and repeatedlyapologize for America 's past actions. That he would travelto Latin America where he would warmly greet Venezuela 'sstrongman Hugo Chavez and sit passively in the audience while Nicaraguan Marxist thug Daniel Ortega charged America with terrorist aggression in Central America.

Would you have said, "C'mon, that will never happen inAmerica !!"

8. Okay, now what if I were to tell you that Obama wants to dismantle conservative talk radio through the imposition ofa new "Fairness Doctrine." That he wants to curtail the First Amendment rights of those who may disagree with hispolicies via internet blogs, cable news networks, oradvocacy ads. That most major network television and mostnewspapers will only sing his phrases like state-run media in communist countries?

Would you say, "C'mon, that will never happen in America!!!"

9. What if I were to tell you that the Obama JusticeDepartment is doing everything it can to limit your Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. That the federal government wants to reinstate the so-called assault weaponsban which would prohibit the sale of any type of firearm that doesn't require the shooter to pull the trigger everytime a round is fired. That Obama's Attorney General wantsto eliminate the sale of virtually all handguns and ammunition, which most citizens choose for self-defense.

Would you say, "C'mon, that will never happen in America!!!"

10. What if I were to tell you that the Obama plan is to eliminate states rights guaranteed by the Tenth Amendmentand give the Federal government sweeping new powers overpolicies currently under the province of local and stategovernments and voted on by the people. That Obama plans tocontrol the schools, energy production, the environment,health care, and the wealth of every US citizen.

Would you say, "C'mon, that will never happen in America!"

11. What if I were to tell you that the president, thecourts, and the federal government have ignored the USConstitution and have seized powers which the founders ofour country fought to restrict.. That our last presidential election may have been our last truly free election for sometime to come.

I know, I know what you will say. "That will never happen in America !"

If we don't do everything in our power to stop this madness in 2010... May God have mercy on our worthless souls.

Pass this on to every freedom loving American you can.

Confidence in Obama slips more, poll shows

Wave of optimism that swept president into office turns more pessimistic

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33839733/ns/politics-white_house/

Obama COULD POSSIBLY become a good president.

But first & foremost people have to quit praising him for doing nothing.

And people have to start pointing out that Obama is doing nothing about important issues, as he pursues his own interest issues.

Before Obama even took office he was praised as some sort of savior, all based on a hope & change campaign. Well we've seen the change, especially in the jobs market, and now we have to HOPE it can somehow change BACK. The retarded notion that "anything is better than Bush" is proving just how truly retarded the notion really is, because things can always get worse. Add in the fact that Bush is LONG GONE and the new president honeymoon gets old FAST. Hope & change both make great dream material, but we're dreaming - we're involved in reality.

Obama claims he 'inherited' all of the problems. Well, that means he KNEW exactly what he was getting then RIGHT? So if he inherited problems that needed attention, what the fvck was he doing in Denmark campaigning for Chicago? Was that the one of the problems he inherited? Hell no, it was a personal issue. Obama needs to focus on the problems he 'inherited' not some boondoggle to avoid working.

1.) Obama is NOT a savior, he is a POLITICIAN.

2.) Obama is NOT the "democrats president", he is EVERYONE'S president.

3.) When democrats and republicans battle simply for their own party's sake, the whole nation loses.

Obama needs to drop his interest in personal agendas and focus on what's good for this nation.

** Don't encourage & support some fool just because you voted for him.

** Make Obama do his job, make him produce results, make him succeed.

** Hold Obama's nose to the grindstone, force him to become a good president.

** Express your dis-satisfaction for a 'do nothing' lack of action.

Obama COULD POSSIBLY become a good president if he focuses on the real issues, the tough issues, and the NEEDS of this country.

But we need to let him know we're not happy, otherwise he just keeps doing what he's doing.

I hear ya tck.... Maybe we should stop complaining about Pres. Obama and complain to him instead

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

and you can contact other elected officials from here

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

The auto-response says "Thank you for your email. President Obama will be on the golf course until further notice."