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Warming, What Warming? | Discovery News Video March 2, 2009 -- For those who have endured this winter's frigid temperatures and today's heavy snowstorm in the Northeast, the concept of global warming may seem, well, almost wishful.
But climate is known to be variable -- a cold winter, or a few strung together doesn't mean the planet is cooling. Still, according to a new study, global warming may have hit a speed bump and could go into hiding for decades.
Earth's climate continues to confound scientists. Following a 30-year trend of warming, global temperatures have flatlined since 2001 despite rising greenhouse gas concentrations, and a heat surplus that should have cranked up the planetary thermostat.

But those needing jobs, food, etc., won't be too concerned.
Priorities.


But, you have a point...I think many "things" will be set aside as people prioritize their life and pay attention to "their" ecomomy.......

Thursday, March 05, 2009
By Andrea Thompson
Aquatic animals that feed on lake and stream bottom sediments burp out small amounts of nitrous oxide, a potent greenhouse gas, a new study finds.
While the biological emissions from these critters pales in comparison to the nitrous oxide emitted by fossil fuel burning, their contribution could increase as more and more nitrogen-rich fertilizer runs off into lakes, streams and seas, the authors of the study said.
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Will Al Gore begin an assault on 'burping worms'...? LOL 




While Republican opposition in the House focused more on the bill's overall spending, McCain and allies turned the Senate spotlight squarely on earmarks.
"How does anyone justify some of these earmarks: $1.7 million for pig odor research in Iowa; $2 million 'for the promotion of astronomy' in Hawaii; $6.6 million for termite research in New Orleans; $2.1 million for the Center for Grape Genetics in New York," he said.


http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-blogs.asp?blog=weathermatrix&partner=&pgUrl=/mtweb/content/weathermatrix/archives/2009/07/1000_low_temp_records_set_this_july.asp



http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Global+warming+religion+First+World+urban+elites/1835847/story.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124967502810515267.html



Poll: Economy outweighs environment
By JENNIFER ROBISON
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
"Right now, Americans are more concerned about the economy than the environment," said Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll. "The politician who says, 'I'm going to cripple jobs and shut down factories' would be in trouble in this economy."
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People are finally wising up to this whole global warming scam. 

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090910_summerstats.html


Stop Al Gore's jet from flying!


http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/No-Kidding-Snow-on-Sunday--63751227.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm


...Robb-o, don't say it- hahaha

By KRISTEN CATES Tribune Staff Writer October 12, 2009
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Del.icio.usFacebookDiggRedditNewsvineBuzz up!TwitterIt was a cold day on Oct. 11 in 1969 and 1972 in several communities across northcentral Montana. But Oct. 11, 2009, will go down in the books as a more frigid day.
Several communities in this part of the state broke daily low records on Sunday, and several more also broke records for having a high temperature that was still well below freezing.
"Hopefully the worst is over with," said Jim Brusda, meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Great Falls.
In Cascade, the daily low was -2 degrees on Sunday, where the record low for this date used to be 15 degrees set in 1969. In Lewistown, the low was 5 degrees, breaking the previous record low for this date of 18 degrees set in 1969. In Stanford, the thermometer dipped down to 7 degrees, well below the old record low of 15 degrees in 1931.
The low in Great Falls Sunday was 10 degrees, whereas the previous record low was 21 in 1969.
But the temperatures didn't reach too much higher throughout the day.
Brusda said there is a very cold northerly flow that has moved in from Canada, but what's holding the weather here is cloud cover.
"What we need is a good west wind in here to break the clouds up," he said. "The warmer air isn't that far away, it's just a matter of getting some sunshine in here."
The clouds have prevented the temperature from reaching above freezing, and they likely won't until sometime Tuesday, according to Brusda.
That meant that more records were shattered throughout the day, because the high temperature for many communities was one of the lowest highs recorded for Oct. 11.
The high in Great Falls Sunday was 23 degrees, well below the old record low-high temperature of 30 degrees in 1969.






Jobs. vs. Global Warming.
This will be Obama's choice.
(The environment is VERY important... but not the most crucial issue RIGHT NOW.) 
Priorities.

The environment will always be number one. We're comparing the need for jobs to the earth we live on? That sounds ludacris. If America wants to create jobs (since we dont make anything anymore) then we need to lead the world in new energy resources. There are endless possibilities. Thats the answer. If we seek this out, we would once again be the country that saved the world (and created endless jobs in the process).

Lots of people without jobs right now.
I suspect people will want jobs before living in the streets to protect the environment.
Right now, without jobs, they're headed for the streets.
Just a suspicion.
Time will tell.


http://austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2009-10-12/17147/Early_snow_records_set_to_be_broken

In what organizers said was a rarity, Gore took half a dozen questions from journalists, including one from Phelim McAleer, an Irish filmmaker who asked Gore to address nine errors in his film identified by a British court in 2007.
Gore responded that the court ruling supported the showing of his film in British schools. When McAleer tried to debate further, his microphone was cut off by the moderators.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/article_dacf39c7-c2f8-5718-a5a0-d0cfb39f80bc.html


All job killers.
Many business & industry leaders are afraid to ramp up any new ventures with Obama looking to spend any money they might make. 

if you want.i know it wont change tcks mind,he's never wrong
but might be interesting
to others.
http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610

before reading his books,and realising how my thouhgtless actions oppressed others in ways i didnt know of,it really changed my life,how i make decisions,becuase it affected my consciense,enouhg so that i bought many copies to give out to friends.

were made of the earth,to hurt the earth hurts us,to keep feeding an instant gratification economy and addiction is a mistake.


)But I think the guy with a family of four who's unemployment runs out will say, "Fvck global warming... I need to heat my fvcking house... I'll take a job burning car tires right now..."
Once again it appears to be a simple matter of the 'haves' vs. the 'have nots', many rich people are concerned about global warming, people without jobs and without money could care less about global warming.
Personally I think the entire global warming issue needs to be put on hold, because as the USA sheds business & industry that causes global warming, the Chinese build business & industry that creates global warming - the Chinese want the money, the robust economy, and the jobs.
(And we're all on the same globe.
)



Global Warming is just another. Hey we're the government, we need to get control of this (minor issue) in a major way. Universities love it. Government grants to study it are issued. Of course they have to promote it to keep the grants coming.
How do we issue grants to study reduction in government size, spending and waste. Think the govt is going to pop for that?


(I am hearing a great deal of political 'talk' along the same lines, and I cannot understand where reality fits into the scheme. Reality = real, make it happen.)

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/october.cold.record.2.1247099.html

But now that coal and other 'carbon products' are being 'evilized', many wooded areas are quietly being purchased by huge manufacturing firms specifically so they can cut down the trees and burn them.
What laws and regulations will win out - laws against using coal and 'carbon products', or laws against cutting down the trees on your own land?
Interesting dilemma. 

The bodies of thousands of rabbits culled every year from the parks in Stockholms Kungsholmen neighbourhood are being used to fuel a heating plant in central Sweden.
The decision to use Stockholms rabbit cadavers as bioenergy to warm Swedes living in Vrmland doesn't sit well with Stockholm-based animal rights activists.
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Bunnies today... unwanted dogs & cats tomorrow? 

Any idea when it will get warm???

Where do I start? How about reconfiguring the enitre electric grid, manufacturing and maintainting wind turbine farms, Geothermal heating both residential and commercial, green products produced right here in the USA such as electric lawn equipment, commerical and residential solar panneling, autos just off the top of my head. I'm sure if I google there would be much more to do. There's so much I don't know. Simply put, we need to be more self sufficient and there is much to do.


Nobody is interested in buying the new products and/or services you suggest our nation should be developing right now, but the political leadership believes these products & services should be created anyhow, and possibly forced upon the public (that doesn't want it) for purchase.
It could very well be that all of this new 'green' technology and these new 'green' goods would sit unsold, while people burn logs in their fireplace for heat because they can't afford to buy the new stuff.
Research & development might (might) create jobs 4-5 years from now... but what about NOW...? People needs an income in order to buy anything.
One suggestion has been to look at priorities...
** Address the issue of global warming NOW...?
** Address the issue of providing jobs NOW...?
It does not logically appear that both options can take place at the same time, right? 

Robbi
The heating and cooling industry is both natural gas and geothermal these days, in other words most companies do both. My company does both. No jobs lost there, but more created. It is expected these days for a technician/installer to know a little something of Geothermal heating, they even teach it to us as part of my 2 year course.

Several senators have expressed interest in providing small businesses with tax incentives if they hire new employees, and tax incentives if they expand their businesses.
This isn't magic - it's mostly common sense.
If we want businesses to hire more people, make it worthwhile for the business to do so.
Here's another idea - instead of paying people unemployment to not work, and to basically sit on their asses drinking beer all day, why not make it mandatory that in order for them to receive their free money unemployment pay they must become 'interns' at some small business, and learn something about business?
Lastly, put all of this talk about 'cap & trade' on hold until we have some industry to 'cap & trade' with... because at the current rate we're going all of the industry that creates 'global warming' is warming the skies over Mexico.
Immediate action takes place when there is incentive to act. 

They are making an environmental protection 'exemption' to build a new stadium, create jobs, and attract business to the state.
Barack, can you hear me now, lol???

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.244057bd1b30448115575c2187e68681.141&show_article=1


EPA Employees Silenced for Criticizing Cap and Trade
by William La Jeunesse FOXNews.com
When Zabel and Williams released a video on the Internet expressing their concerns over the Obama administrations plans to use a cap and trade program to fight climate change, they were told to keep it to themselves.
Laurie Williams and husband Alan Zabel worked for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for more than 20 years, and they know more about climate change than most politicians. But when the couple released a video on the Internet expressing their concerns over the Obama administrations plans to use cap-and-trade legislation to fight climate change, they were told to keep it to themselves.
Williams and Zabel oppose cap and trade -- a controversial government allowance program in which companies are issued emissions limits, or caps, which they can then trade -- as a means to fight climate change.
On their own time, Williams and Zabel made a video expressing these opinions.
"Cap-and-trade with offsets provides a false sense of progress and puts money in the pockets of investors," Zabel said in the video. "We think that these restrictions might not be constitutional," he said.
Their bosses in San Francisco approved the effort by Williams and Zabel to release the tape, but after an editorial they wrote appeared in the Washington Post, EPA Director Lisa Jackson ordered the pair to remove the video or face disciplinary action.
Specifically, the administration's chief environmental official did not want Williams or Zabel mentioning their four decades with the EPA -- time spent studying cap and trade.
"The people who understand the problems with the cap and trade with offsets bill are not being heard," Williams told Fox News.
The EPA issued a statement saying it welcomes free expression provided employees adhere to ethics rules. The agency reportedly doesn't object to the content of the video but requires Williams and Zabel to make it clearer that they are speaking for themselves and not the EPA.
But some Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee want an investigation into what if any -- regulations Zabel and Williams violated.
Critics argue the action contradicts the president's support for open government.
"It's censorship," Jeff Ruch, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, told Fox News.
"If the Obama administration believes in transparency it is precisely in these cases they need to prove it."
