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First, I am posting this forum to defend a long and dear fellow mingler, Star. But more importantly, this is to let Missy know she needs to grow the hell up and stand on her own two feet!!

For those that know both missy and star, what some of you DON'T know is that missy has been through some rough times finacially....she confided in a few people from mingles (myself included) and often asked for help...but where should one draw the line??

I'll be the one to say this...MISSY...you have some nerve - Star lost her home, her belongings, the things that mattered most to her..and all you could do was complain about what people are saying about you in mingles. Where the hell is YOUR heart at?? Where the hell are YOUR values?? It's already low enough that you're doing all of this while Star and Andy are trying to bounce back...it's even WORSE when you try to make her explain why she can't give you money...HELLOOOOOOOO, HER HOUSE BURNT DOWN!!! You even tried using the fact that she sent a 10 dollar gift card to hold against her for not loaning you the money. How do you justify a 10 dollar gift card for asking to borrow FIVE THOUSAND (5000) DOLLARS??? And then you have the nerve to ask if/why she's mad at you?? You are in serious need of some help...but here's some subtle advice for you..

GROW THE ****K UP!! I can't even begin to imagine how hard it was for Star and Andy to make the comeback they did, especially weighing everything that they've lost...and I REALLY can't figure out for the life of me how someone can call themselves a FRIEND and do what you did. That's borderline inhumane...if you are in financial trouble, GET A ****ING JOB!!! Your life is not so damn miserable that you can't do anything for yourself...and truth be told, if you honestly feel that way then you DESERVE to carry yourself like a peasant!

And this is what i tried to explain to you before when you wanted to start drama over what someone ELSE told you I said in mingles...I ain't got time for your drama, and i'm pretty damn sure Star and Andy don't, either..nor does any other ADULT that has their own life and their own problems to deal with. If you can't carry yourself like an adult and do what you have to do to get by, then how can you truly expect anyone else to RESPECT you like one?? Getting your feet off the ground is not going to be easy..hell we all have been through it, and we all have gotten past it and gotten better and stronger...you're stuck at the bottom of the barrel saying "woe is me", expecting someone else to lift you up.

Missy, you really need to get your head straight and figure out what YOU are worth - what's important to YOU...what you're willing to do WHATEVER for. I had female friends in college that hated stripping, but did it so they could have a way to pay their tuition...and from the looks of it, your pictures MIGHT suggest that you could try the same thing..get a damn job and get off your feet on your own..STOP EXPECTING EVERYONE IN MINGLES TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!! And stop expecting those you call "friends" to fight all of your battles for you!! That's the mark of a true coward.

My apologies to the rest of mingles for the tone of this message..but i couldn't keep from saying anything about this anymore...if that makes me a 'drama king', then so be it - call me a drama king...lol Unlike some people, unless i have the upmost respect for your personality i really don't give two shits what you got to say about me. I'm gonna be me regardless....

Now, if anyone has any suggestions for helping Missy get over her 'financial burden', especially her 'friends', then now would be a good time to make them.

I just got one word.... AMEN!!!!!

Oh, and for those who are still wondering who I'm talking about, her name is melissamichelleg

Crane, no apologies needed. You gave her money willingly. I know other minglers that tried to help her, one gave her really good advice.

Missy, I am hurt. Our last 3 calls were all about what people in chat were saying about you. I tried to be supportive. I went numb when you asked for money. I don't have a problem with you asking, my problem is that you didn't take the no. Instead you used my helping another mingler (guilt) then proceeded to convince me that if everyone chipped in 100, your mother's home would be saved. Forty minutes, 40, of you trying to convince me of something that doesn't add up. Think about it.

You asked and I said no. I would have gotten you a gift card to a store for food but not cash. Do you plan on repaying Crane? He needs his $$$ too, especially with the baby.

You asked if I was upset the other night. Yes, I have been upset. Our last conversation was about money and it left me feeling used. I shouldn't have to explain what the insurance money was going to. I shouldn't have a fight with Andy over you. I may understand that you need a friend, but he sees something different.

I don't even know if you will stop and try to think of the affect this has on people. Scammers do this all time. Something for you to consider...

I've known Star way before I joined mingles back in 02,she has a heart of gold.I've know you Crane for a long time too,honest man. Missy for awhile..My point is that 99.9999% of the people here is going to tell her to get a job or seek financial adviser.Do you think it is wise to have this in an open forum board where everybody can see it geez,,couldn't be resolved in emails between the people involved...

Swamp bro, i understand what you are saying...but the way i've been seeing it, you can call this a mingles 'intervention' if you want. Honestly i don't see that much of a difference between this post, and those that others make trying to expose others and naming names...the only difference is i'm not trying to do the name calling thing (even though at times I want to), but I figure this is the only way to get her attention to what the hell she is doing, and while i'm sure i'm not the first one to say i don't appreciate what she's doing, I simply felt i had to say something..i'm not perfect either, but never in my life will you see me trying to get someone else trying to do for me what I can do for myself...and i'm pretty sure if it wasn't me that made this forum then someone else would...I've known star since the days of Starmatch, and luv her to death...she's been torn about this, and we even talked about it...so as long as she's okay with me doing this, then honestly man i could care less if it was in the open or behind closed doors...but SOMEONE had to do it.

besides that, and this is my ignorance speaking in this particular post, I would like to know how many other people she's tried doing this shit to...

totally agree there with Crane

even though i dont know the full story ..

if it stops other people to be ripped off or subjected to begging or harassed

so be it !!

i have known both Crane and Star a long time too ..and respect them both ....and support them in this ..no matter what

Star...I appreciate that you would ask her if she's going to pay me the money i gave her back...but you know what, it's not even worth asking for it back. Even when i gave it to her i told her I didn't expect it back..at the time i did it, i did it out of both pity and support. I had no problem helping her out if I could (at that time)...but now she's taken it to a whole nother extreme. I dont' want her to pay me back....metaphorically speaking, i want her to learn how to feed herself....

*Hugs/kisses* mysttt..love ya!!

its about time some of my mean foul mouthed nasty son of a bitchness rubbed off on ya crane.KICKS SOME ASS BROTHER

As my last post for the night, i'm going to make one more reference to Swamp's post... really this is the second reason i decided to do this, and to help get the point home i will go over the point at which Missy and I stopped talking...

The same night someone told her i was talking about her in the chat room, she started IMing me on yahoo, while i was trying to talk to my fiancee at the time. I told her I was busy and didn't have time to talk about this and for her to IM me or call me the next day..but she kept pushing the issue, talking about "I can't believe you would stab me in the back like this"..blah blah blah. She already struck out by trying to get me to take time away for my fiance to entertain the ignorance someone told her - and THEN to try to accuse me of being a 'terrible friend', not even acknowledging all the shit I tried to help her with before then, not to mention all the times I listened to her sob story...so i abruptly stopped talking to her at that point. The next day she removed me from all of her friends list, etc. I even tried to call her so that we can discuss what she heard..she didn't even have the nerve to tell me who was putting my name in their mouth on some dumb shit, but I didn't stress it. I don't have time for that... and since then, we have not talked one bit. Now in the IM conversation I had with her, I told her straight up (and if you think i'm wrong, then tell me - I'm open to constructive criticism)... a REAL friend won't always tell you want you want to hear, but what you NEED to hear. All of the points i'm making now i tried making to her that night...about her fighting her own battles and her making a way for herself and not relying so much on other people..but she wasn't trying to hear what I had to say. So for me, this is my way of getting my point across. And I'm pretty sure anyone that knew her as well as I thought I did, will agree to the same concept...a real friend will tell you the truth, and still be there to support you. I even told her that the same night....but I also told her if she chose not to talk to me again that was fine too..i'm not going to lose sleep over someone that don't know how to take the truth about themselves and use it in stride for the better. So on that note, when you have someone that lives in mingles, acts like Missy does and doesn't try to hear what you got to say, then i think this is very necessary to make a thread about it, discuss it, and leave it alone...once this thread is done and this topic is closed, then whatever i have to say will be said (which for the most part, it is already)...and unless i feel empowered to say more, this is where my 'closure' ends...

LMAO HUNTER...where the hell u been bro??

I think your both guilty her for asking for money,,,and you with a fiancee and a baby-talking in live chat to a single(friend)and giving her money, hmm- thats my interpretation up there,I know we all see things different.I'm done on this topic...

eh?

what's this??

drama here - in mingles?

and it involves star and melissa???

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!

OMG theSHOCKtheHORRORtheTOTALsurpriseGASP

*choke..cough..sputter*....omg, cappuccino is a pain to clean off the computer screen when you spew it there! LOL--

f-f-f-five THOUSAND DOLLARS????? I have to admit, that shocked the daylights out of me, mainly because I don't care how much I'm hurting financially, I don't think I'd have the nerve to ask anyone online for money like that- I don't know what her situation is, but from what you said up there, my guess is that she's probably been enabled a lot, and expects people to bail her out- truth is, when times are tough economically, and they are for everyone right now, I would guess- you have to start at rock bottom and scratch your way up- been there, done that, have SEVERAL t-shirts, lol. Besides....I find it somewhat difficult to have a lot of sympathy for someone who can afford internet, a webcam, etc.- priorities, dear- priorities-lol.

Star, my advice to you....KEEP YOUR CHECKBOOK CLOSED.

Good advice is free, trying to get money back that is loaned to someone, especially online, that you've never met, is not!

5000 dollars to someone you haven't met, and only talked to on line or by phone. That's a different reality than I am in. And expecting someone to lend you 5 grand and then yelling at them because they didn't ,,,that is weird. I cannot wrap my head around any of that. I would tell star to keep the checkbook, paypal, gift cards,,everything closed. Bizzaro world.

i have to say i know star and talk to her every now and hen have been there and talked to her through her rough times when the house burned not once did she offer to bring it up she was more concerened about others and how they where doing she is awsome and i am very proud to call her a friend and as for my white friend crane i am getting to know him and talk to him more and more hes down to earth fun loving guy and am glad i know him even tho he does avoid meeting me for some lunch (chicken) yummmmmmm

there are a few others out that i am glad to say i know

crane i see nothing wrong with anything you said i thought that this subject was closed awhile ago and am glad i missed it ty for being there for star

just been busy crane, alot of work to do around the property and trying to find stable work. got to meet robbi and cimm in vegas last weekend so aint had alot of time to get on here but wife and kids are gone for a few weeks so i got the house to myself.how is the little one doing? need to see a pic.

just been busy crane, alot of work to do around the property and trying to find stable work. got to meet robbi and cimm in vegas last weekend so aint had alot of time to get on here but wife and kids are gone for a few weeks so i got the house to myself.how is the little one doing? need to see a pic.

Hey brother...can you spare a dime?I didn't know people were handing out money!!!!

****ing bullshit i never asked anyone for 5000 dollars u guys r such liars! i didnt ask u star or anything and u didnt send me a gift card i confided in you that i was close to losing my home i wasnt asking u for 5000 dollars at all. You asked what was happening i said i needed 5000 dollars. i was not asking u to give it to me. There is a huge difference to tell someone your situation and what you r going through and ouyt right asking them for something. I would never expect any of my friends to give me that amount of money.I sat there and talked to u for hours on the phone about what u were going through. You afre the one always calling me telling me about the drama in mingles and what people are saying about you and me. You guys can keep your drama and BS to yourselves You are all a bunch of back stabbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about growing up you guys act like high schoolers take your own advice and GROW THE **** UP!!!!!

Missy, you asked. I told you I don't give people cash. Then you wanted to know why I could help Von and not you. I told you gift cards were different. If you needed groceries I would get you a gift card to the grocery store. You brought up the insurance money and I had to explain to you where that money was going. Not only that I told you straight out that Andy would be angry that you even asked. He is still irrate over that call and the 2 previous calls. Then you wanted me to get the others in chat to all chip in $100 each. I told you that EVERYONE was having financial difficulties. I also told you that running around asking for money would cost you in the end. As of today I have heard from 2 other people you asked for $5000 from. One in November, one in December, and then me in January. All of us told you no. One even did research to get you information on what avenues of help were available to you.

Deal with it, you asked for $5000. Too many people know you have been asking for money. Some even remember you discussing it in chat.

Do I care about you, yes I do. Think about this Missy, anyone giving you the money would only be putting a bandaid on the wound. Eventually you would need a new bandage. You need to do something for yourself and your family to heal the wound. The bandaids wont last forever.

Missy was one of the very first people I met when I came to mingles and have been freinds with her since that time . I also know she was at one point struggling to make end meet and having serious financial problems. I dont personally know if the conversation took place in which she was asking for money or not. But I do think that this post is really kinda hurtful and just out right ****in mean to some degree. If this all took place the phone or emails or inperson would be the place to have the conversation . Not ridiculing her here for people who dont have a clue who she is to make judgement.

Star I never asked you for your insurance money, ever! I asked you how you were doing what they were doing for You. I stayed on the phone for hours talking to you about how the insurance company was screwing you out of all this money and it wasn't right. I didn't ask you for your insurance money, I guess I should of took warning when everyone was saying you were the drama queen. You calling me up all the time telling me that mostie and christo and whoever were posting stuff about you and about me and I needed to do something. You calling me starting drama , and I was your friend and I defended you. I should of believed the obvious. I was there for you constantly asking about your house and how you were doing and what you were going through. If you and crane want to act like children and post lies and also personal stuff that I was going through and confiding you about. Then be cruel and hateful that's your choice. I find it really strange everything was fine with us until just recently when i haven't even been in for over a month and a half til just the other night. You guys must be really bored and wanted to stir up drama so u take stuff that i've been through and add lies to it! My true friends will know the truth that I would never ask any friend for that insane amount of money!

As far as crane is concerned we were close friends at one time, and he offered the money to me and I said I OWE YOU to him He said YOU DONT OWE ME ANYTHING, Irepeatedly said to him NO I WILL PAY YOU BACK, and the last words he said was YOU ARE MY FRIEND AND I WONT SEND IT IF YOU ARE GOING TO PAY ME BACK! but if you want to deny saying that crane then go ahead. I am done with your little drama world!

A couple is lying in bed.

The woman says, 'I am going to make you the happiest man in the world.'

The man replies, 'I'll miss you...'

Q: What can a man do while his woman is going through menopause?

A: Keep busy. If he's handy with tools, he can finish the basement. When he's done, he will have a place to live.

Swamp...the relationship between perception and trust is a very thin line. Anyone who knows i have a fiancee and a son and chat and flirt the way i do could easily get the wrong impression..i wouldn't doubt that for one second..but here's where the difference between perception and truth is...I've already told my fiancee about mingles and that I chat here almost everyday with old and new online friends...is that not the truth?? And she doesn't have a problem with it, because she knows who I am and what I am about, and we both love each other enough to see past all of the trivial perceptions people have..trust me we've had enough of them from others. And that's where one can separate a real relationship from a 'comfortable situation' between two people....

well. 7 years ago I loaned member Mucky 500.00 bucks and sent an extra 100.00 gift for her to buy her kids some christmas gifts. I never got a penny back and hence a similar forum evolved back then. However, on the flipside I did loan a few others similar amounts of cash and more and I was paid back on time.. Sooo whats my point ? I don't have one, I just thought I'd add my 2 cents in to the conversation..no pun intended..ar ar

As for missy, i've already stated that i didn't want you to pay me back...make sure you read my posts right and get the right perception before you go off on a tangent as if i demanded you to pay me back...if you're in a worse situation than i'm in, and I give you money out of my sheer generosity and concern for you and your kids, then of course i'm not going to expect you to pay me back..i haven't then and I don't now.

And my question to you is, if you didn't INDIRECTLY ask Star for money, then why was she spending 40 minutes trying to explain to you why she doesn't give money out?? Again, difference between perception and reality...

Christo...OMG hahahaha.. I must admit I don't laff at to much of your stuff,,,,but your comment,,,,eh ? whats this ? drama in mingles ? OMG I just about pooped my pants laffin at that... then again I'm easily entertained ^ 5's TFF

Gunner..i hear you bro..yes, this thread has a mean demeanor to it..but you know what? the two people involved in detail have stated the facts of the conversation..well, to me at least one person did, which was Star..and even if it sounds one-sided to those that read it and are playing 'devil's advocate', it doesn't change the point to be made...you got to help yourself before someone else can help you...

i have a wife and two children, have been unemployed sence last april and in 4 weeks my unemployment runs out, so every one send me money and no i aint paying it back.

but jump, just the facts.......... just the facts

(and your muckie debt CLEARLY has priority over this lil'drama, lol)

rep, although your wife has great structure, no one here can send you money until after someone goes back to Ghana to finish their education...

(sorry dude, mingles DOES have it's rules)

Seems like someone is living beyond their means. Who keeps the luxuries when the living arrangements for themselves AND THEIR CHILDREN are in jeopardy? (Cris, I still owe you a dinner )

CRANE!!! ltns...

Starrrrrrrrrr Hi

Rep...still the same I see

Notice - For anyone considering loaning money, land, housing, sex, drugs or children to other Minglers.

Consult with myself or Jump before making your decision.

BTOhhhhhhhhhh baby

life a bitch if you dont learn to handle your money. Even if you do sometimes it will come back and bite you. But as long as your living. One must get off their ass and try again. If you nothing is impossible. this is america.

yes - the "owed dinner"

I'm glad you brought that up because I was about to throw an online drama-tantrum

(I would have done the drama-tantrum much earlier but I couldn't find the '****' buttons on my keyboard)

LMAO

BTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! hugs/kisses sweetie ltns where u been hidin??

*waves to BTO* It's getting warm out!

Missy (I know you're still lurking), I don't mind being labeled the drama queen. You had been complaining that I never called you. May I remind you that my house burnt down and you called me at Rachel's (and she will back me on this) to complain about Crane, Scorpius and Twin stabbing you in the back. The date of that call was 9/25. The 2 week anniversary of the fire. Now Rachel remembers you crying about being labeled a drama queen. She also wanted me to remind you I spent wayyyyy to much time telling you Crane was a good guy and that I would not drop him as a friend. That call was over 2 hours and I was lucky to get a word in edgewise because you didn't want to hear anything good about any of the people you were tearing into. You never even asked how we were doing. That call was 100% about those backstabbing nasty chat people that you wanted me to go in and straighten out. Our next phone call was in December, you know, the happy holidays one were again I had to defend Crane and I used how I handle Cristo and Mostie (you remember, ignore them...) If you thought these people were so terrible throw them on block and IGNORE. Just like a fart the stink eventually disappears. The only thing about the insurance was that we were under insured. They paid out the limit of the policy and you were thrilled I had the money... 2 weeks later I called you to tell you they extended the closing again...

You're response "They are foreclosing on my mom's house, I need $5000. They are foreclosing in 3 days, can you send it?"

With those words I went numb and said "No." You knew exactly what I thought, you went from $5000 to anything that would help. I told you I do gift cards. You persisted with the I need cash. I persisted with the gift cards. Told you Andy would NOT let me. You then asked why I helped Von and refused to help you. You retracted that statement and told me that you meant everyone was willing to help Von and not you. I tried to explain to you that Von never asked. People just decided to get her phone cards so she could stay in touch. For all I know she may never have to pay to use a phone again. I would chip in and do that again for her. So I give up a daily cup of coffee for a week. No biggie. There is a big difference between $10 and $5000. Your next comments had to do with getting all our friends to chip in $100. I was floored and told you that asking for money was going to hurt your rep and that I would not be asking people on your behalf. Then you told me it was only wishful thinking, but that Crane had sent you money. It was important for you mom to get on the phone and talk to the bank. THEY WANT THE MONEY NOT YOUR HOME. They do extensions, they get creative with payment plans, they try to work with their borrowers. You claimed the bank was not willing. Both of us were upset when we finally said goodbye.

I called one last time to tell you a friend of ours had had an accident. You didn't return the call. Fact is you have not spoken to me until the other nite and you wanted to know if I was upset with you. I did not want to bring it up in chat.

Crane will tell you I did not want to start a forum, I wanted to talk to you one on one... to give you another chance. This forum was his choice and I will support his choice. Prior to this forum you were getting the rep of a scammer. When I think back on the last few conversations... I now have to agree with what people were saying.

*The drama queen takes her bow and exits stage right*

I'm thinking some people have no idea about boundaries both how to make them and how not to overstep someone elses. Class at 11

wonder why I keep coming back to mingles this drama is better than a porno flick,,,,lol

no way, i am the real drama queeen around here, back off star, yer not gettin my role

yeah but ya can wack to a porno flick swamp

Missy (everyone knows you're still lurking around)...again, that night you and I had the IM conversation, i hadn't even heard from you but maybe twice since i sent you that money (which was weeks before). The first thing you said to me was "I can't believe you would do that to me"...when asked you what I did, your exact words were "Another friend of mine (I won't say who because they're not in this) just called me on my phone and said you were talking about me, saying you were going to rip into me if I came into mingles and acted like you were mine" from that point on I asked who told you that, you said it wasn't important. Then you persistently kept asking me how I could do such a thing...I told you twin told me you and her had a brief discussion and u said I was yours first and yada yada yada..then someone else started making jokes about what i would say if i was there when u did it. Again, you said you couldn't believe I would stab you in the back, I thought you were my friend and thought you would defend me...at this point I explained to you that i'm talking to my fiancee, and will not talk about this right now. Again, you kept saying how hurt you were and why did I do that and that was mean and you were only joking around and why is everyone always after you. At that point I got pissed (because you were taking my time away from talking to my fiancee) and simply told you that I didn't do anything that would warrant stabbing you in the back, you were still my friend and if you weren't then i wouldn't have given you that money when I felt bad and thought you really could use some help...but sometimes you can't expect your friends to defend you everytime you feel mingles jumps on you. If you're an emotional person like that, then you shouldn't pretend to be hardcore cause you're only going to get your feelings hurt..then brought up the forum that was made a while back where you was pissed that someone talked about your family and you got hurt..I still remember when you called me in the middle of the night crying about it because it bothered you that much..and the very next day I went in and made a post in YOUR defense....but i'm not going to do that all the time. You kept trying to tell me a real friend would defend you no matter what...I told you a real friend will tell you the truth, and sometimes it won't be the things you want to hear, but you will need to hear, and they will still be there to support you. Then my fiance had to go because of my son crying, and so she got off and then i was FIRED UP...I told you if you want to keep me as a friend, then you had better get used to me telling you things you don't want to hear from time to time...I told you if you don't, that's fine too, but i said what I needed to and the conversation was over. Then I logged off...

The next day I tried to send you a message through mingles to call me so we can talk about what happened and such..i even went back INTO chat DURING the conversation and asked who was telling you that i was talking shit about her up here...there was about 3 or 4 people in there that didn't say anything in response while everyone else said they didn't...then i made a comment in chat that if you're not man or woman enough to own up to what you been telling missy then you're a coward and i had better not find out who it is...after that I went to try and send you a message..u had me blocked and removed from your friend list...I went into yahoo and it was the same thing...and i even tried to call you and u never answered your phone. So that was it for me...you made your point loud and clear at that time...and I let it go..that's why i never said one word (not even a hi) to you afterwards when you came into chat and i was there...hahaha.. you NOT hurting my feelings..lol

So, all of that blew over with me...then not too long ago i hear that Star's house burned down - she had mentioned it in chat..she was devastated..and I would be too if I was in her shoes...she wasn't online when i was that much (if at all, i would imagine) so i didn't get a chance to talk to her and find out if there was anything that I could do to help HER...but a couple of weeks later she asked me to talk to her about something...we go into another chat room and she begins to tell me about your phone conversation with her and how she felt about it...and when I heard all of the shit (Star mentioned above) you did, I became so ****ing upset i damn near got physcially sick from it. and every since then, i've seen you come in a couple of times, and wanted to say something then..but when Star first talked to me about it, she made it clear that only two other people knew about what you did..I would be the third. And I gave her my word that I wouldn't say anything to you or anyone else about that phone conversation you all had. Star is one of the handfull of people I have the upmost respect for..simply because since we became friends we always found a way to keep in touch...I knew her and Andy before they got married..they knew me before I got married...she knew when i was separated and when I got divorced...in the 10 years i was in germany any significant life changing event was shared with her and a select few other people (like extasi and mysttt)especially the ones that I was in touch with through email or msn messenger. So when i hear what you did to her, of course i'm going to be off-the-meter about it...but yet still, I didn't tell a soul about it...

Then (right before i started this forum) star was in chat the other night and she asked me if twin knew about it. Star knew me and twin are good friends and we discuss a lot of things with each other, but i didn't mention this to twin...and then I told Star that Twin was worthy enough to hear this and not repeat it to anyone...the three of us (Star, Twin and myself) when into another room and that's where Star broke it down to Twin what you had done since the phone conversation. So we all know by now that that's your habit...when someone doesn't give you what you want, you ditch them like a bad habit, no matter how close you pretended to be to them. To me you're just as fake as they come now...all Star tried to do was be a friend and give you guidance - and when her chips are down you want to take them away from her? What kind of friend does that?? So yeah..i couldn't hold the frustration in anymore, and made sure it was alright with Star to put your ass out in the open with what you did..she said she didn't have a problem with it, and that's all i needed...and it's funny, since the incident with Star's house burning down, you weren't at mingles that much anyway...and i'm not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree, but if you do something like what you did, then you don't talk to her for weeks, passively dismiss her attempts to contact you, and then wait for weeks and suddenly ask if she's mad at you, ....that sounds like a guilty conscience to me. But again, that's just my perception...

Just like when you were going around telling everyone that you had a man but he was in jail for a 'misunderstanding'...you actually spent like 30 minutes telling me about him on the phone at one point..and I remember that conversation..you and him had passed love letters and everything..and he told you why you were in jail..I told you that's the last place you need to be looking for a man, but you insisted what the two of you had was real, yada yada yada...but here's my question....

The other day when me, Star and Twin were talking I asked her if you ever told her about your jailbird boyfriend, because before Star told just me about what you did I thought the two of you were really tight back then...but she's never heard you talk of it...so that makes me wonder what other lies have you come up with to dupe people into helping you out....

Plain and simple, you sicken me...if you're really gone then i hope you don't come back..period.

OH, and to reiterate an already stated fact, when Star didn't have a problem with you being exposed, we were making referrences to doing that in the chat room..we were actually going to wait until you showed up one day, then all of us go in there and expose the shit that you did...but my anger took over, and I took it upon myself to make this forum...Star and Twin didn't even know I was going to do it until I had already made two posts, deleted and reposted them together (i saw certain grammar errors at the time...lol) So if anyone thinks that Star was behind this, she wasn't. I did this on my own, because I wanted to do it...and if anyone has a problem with it, oh well...you'll live, just like me.

yea Rep thats true,but a porno flick costs money,,,,,here people are screwing each other and its free to read....

oops...two posts up (the long one)...missy's supposed boyfriend tried to explain to her while HE was in jail...lol

Hey, sorry...I make mild attempts at being a perfectionist...lol I can't help it..lol

yep and the sex is free too! Best thing is one can create their own porno.

^^^ Hey Micky! How's it hangin bro?

no comment jump lol

lending money to people you have met online, as wc fields said theres a sucker born every minute. why in your best days would you loan someone money whom you have never met. secondly this like a ponzi scheme, 20 from this one 20 from that one, adds up doesnt it. until the ones get tired fo giving those 20s, and dont want to dole out any more cash. so they need fresh people to keep it going. after awhile they want to up your ante of what you ask for, to see how guilable people are, and how long they can keep the story of woe is me going.

There are alot of woe is me stories out there but even if you have to bus tables, work at mcdonalds, whatever you need to do survive then do it.

Star, and Crane hugs hope all is well.

O'h Woe is Me...can anyone spare a crumb.. how bout you CCCC ? help a guy out?..heeeeeeeelp

*cuts the cheese, and then runs and hides*

Wow, doesn't this all just sound too familiar? Here, Missy- let me help pull that nasty thing out of your back! Deja vu all over the place!

In the first place, how did all of this get started? Crane....I've known you for years, and never had a bad thing to say about you, and I'm sure you've never had any incidents with me- BUT! When people start passing gossip along about other people, and stirring up shit, then people start getting mad at everyone else, all because someone decided to spill the beans- for the best of reasons, of course- (sound familiar star? and btw...***Just like a fart the stink eventually disappears***...suffering from backdrafts again?)You asked her if it was ok to post the "information" she gave you, and *surprise*...she gave her "ok"....which is exactly what she wanted you to do.

Yes, she IS a drama queen, and she's up to her old tricks *YAWN* yet again, wreaking havoc and dissension wherever her tongue goes- and for all that she told you, Missy, about Captain and me talking about you two, and how you "need to do something about it"....what trouble have you had with us, and...who are you having trouble with now, talking behind your back, and actually 'ok'ing' someone to start a forum telling everything that you supposedly told her in confidence, and, no doubt, adding in a bit extra "just for the hell of it"---what kind of a friend is that????!

Missy, that isn't a friend- I've been at Mingles for 10 years, and so have a lot of other people who KNOW how Star is, and steer the hell clear of her, for that very reason- these are people who have met her at Mingles parties, and know what a total loon she is- And now, it doesn't really matter what the truth was, she's smeared your credibility all to hell, whatever credibility you had, and I don't have a clue WHAT your credibility is, or was, because I don't know you at all.

However, I did have a really good laugh about the fact that Star felt the need to call up other people to talk about Capn and I....because we sure didn't make any phone calls about her, LOL-

If I were all of you, I would question EVERYTHING star says, because from past experience, I would suspect that the things she tells people are liberally sprinkled with a dose of high-pressured bullshit!

rep told me that shopstar told him that swamper said he had heard horse say that he's pretty sure that capn'correli said that mostie was right most of the time

but that's just what I heard - take from it what you need and pass it along...

(besides, EVERYONE knows that 36's husband Bob in MT is the one sending money to whatz'her'name)

I,m telling Mom..............

oh GREAT - why don't'cha just tell EVERY'body?!?!?!?!?!?!

Mostie..thanks for the post, sweetie, and i understand what you are saying...now whether or not Star is a drama queen, and whether or not she gave me the 'ok' because that's what she wanted to do, I don't know...if I was a pawn, then I was a pawn...but please note I didn't just talk about the conversation between her and Star...I also pointed out the last conversation me and her had...since then i wanted to say something about how that girl is, but chose not too..and perhaps it would have been better for anyone involved if i didn't, so the 'smell' goes away..lol At any rate, my piece has been said about it..from this point forward I don't plan on 'dogging' anyone out or whatever the case may be...but again, i've been wanting to do this about missy since BEFORE Star told me what happened....I'll be the first one to admit I can be a hypocrite at times...but then again, I wouldn't believe anyone that told me that they've never been a hypocrite before at least once in their life either. We can't please everyone, especially at once. Even if Star gave me her blessing, she didn't 'coax' me into doing this...I did this for me, because IIIIII wanted to do it. I could have just as easily left the issue with her and Star alone..I simply didn't want to. But now that I've let it all out, I will move on from it.

As far as my credibility goes, well, again...I am who I am, I do what I do...people will not agree with my methods...people will distrust those that I may and may not want to defend...I don't know what happened between Star and anyone else, because neither Star (nor anyone else) has told me about it..and I anyone who knows me knows that I don't come to the forums very often...unless I feel I need to make a point, which I made a point. Whether it is agreed upon, whether my credibility is destroyed with people; put simply, it will be what it will be...but I'm still going to do me regardless

I heard that Bob from Montana, aka 362436 was asking for donations towards some clothes for Missys profile photos.

Im H_W and I approve of this post, although it has NOT been approved by the Mingles Drama Team.

At least thats what I was told to say. Did I get that right?

Crane, in all honesty, I wasn't talking about your credibility, I think you're an excellent person, and I always have- my biggest beef, was Star- simply because I've seen her do this before, and she always seems to have a hand in the nastiest things in the forums- then she feigns innocence, and wrongdoing- I had a bit of a nasty thing with her in the past because of some completely off-the-wall behavior she was exhibiting towards us, accusations and the such- I was even getting emails in my private email from "friends" of hers, lambasting me, who didn't know me from Adam- and it pissed me off, because it was just so completely uncalled for, and I called her on it in front of everyone in here- confronting Missy about your situation with her is between you two, and that's fine, and none of my business- what pissed me off, was the fact that Star decided to "spill" everything that Missy told her, to someone else-and somehow, knowing Star, I'm sure you weren't the only one she told- I'm sure that Missy told her in confidence, never thinking that Star would do that to her- and people like Star, who are back stabbers, completely disgust me, especially when they try to appear to be something or someone that they completely are not.

In my opinion, you were completely justified in your gripe against Missy, but Star is sneaky and underhanded in the way she deals with her "friends", and I use the term loosely-

As for you, Star, you're pathetic- you really are.

CAT FIGHT

'*' (STAR) is evil and her drama besets all of Mordor as her fingers of darkness and drama once again reach out towards us here at Mingles where we try to peacefully post in The Shire

'*' (the Drama One, the One Who's Name We Cannot Post) seeks the "precious"

for now it is clear that '*' seeks The One Drama....

One Drama to rule them all, One Drama to find them,

One Drama to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

( we're going to need a wizard, elves, dwarves, - we must create a 'Fellowship' )

H_W lives!!! (although we have missed plenty of official polls in his absence - hopefully he will get up to speed quickly with this one because the suspense is growing -> Will Melissa Return... OR Did Melissa Even Leave?)

Mostie...*hugs/kisses* sweetie, wuv ya!...I wasn't aware about the things that went on between you and Star, but what you said is indeed a terrible situation to go through..wow, I can truly understand your angst Star...

I'm sorry I flew off the handle in your forum like that, lol!

Now this is the mingles I so fondly remember from years past.......we haven't had an episode like this in years........

Mostie hon, forums are forums...lol sometimes we need to vent, state opinions, etc... for me it's a way to bring closure to something and then 'drive on' (as we say here in the military)..lol This will surely be my last post in this particular forum...but it won't be my last post...lol

Robbi...lol sometimes this is what ol'school minglers do...lol

i want mostie to fly off the handle on me. i need the attention.

Sorry to disappoint you, hunter- one handle-flying every few months is about all I can handle- LOL

rep's a handle-whore!

***"( we're going to need a wizard, elves, dwarves, - we must create a 'Fellowship' )"***

Well all I can say is the Lord of the Dingbats ain't no Merry Pippins!

The person asking for money screwed up. She should've called it a "stimulus" since that's the current agreeable wording. People are of the mindset today that a stimulus is a good thing.....so maybe she woulda had better luck......

i wish my wife would give me a "stimulus"

"we haven't had an episode like this in years........"

Well, at least not since the "Melissamichelleg Publishes Quiet_Hunters Private E-mail" (with * approval) episode from last September.

Stay tuned for the upcoming episodes of Mingles High Drama answering the burning questions.

Will Melissamichelleg ever return?

Will there be a Pool?

Will Bob (362636) from Montana send her any clothes for profile pics?

Will Quiet Hunter ever come back to Mingles?

Will he loan Melissamichelleg $5000? Will she pay it back?

Will the common denominator for all these episodes be revealed and will a Fellowship be created to save Mingles?

Disclaimer: Message approval pending.

Awww finally my far-sided (H_W) mingler has sharpened his pencil (or dusted off his keyboard) and gets the game a foot!

Waiting with abated breath...

HW's post is just a clever segue to get you to divulge the name of your first car, so that he can get your passwords to all of your accounts, which will ultimately lead him to your cigars, running you over and ruining your status in life...

Trust me..... I know things.

The Crumpled One

*... groans audibly and digs a hole to bury the bad profilers in the ground once and for all...*

I heard that was the type of 'scammer' H_W was too. And ya know, that Cim he does know 'stuff'...

Perhaps, it is the "Drama One" that is making the "Crumpled One" say those mean things about me.

You guys are just pawns of the "Drama One" in the diabolical attempt to rule over the lands of Mingles and Mordor.

Who will be the next pawn to rid H_W forever?

Will there be a Pool for H_W's return?

Will there be fabulous prizes to be won?

Will Bob (the dog) from Dogpatch, Arkansas stay or go?

Will Miss Cleo ever remember her password?

Will Cimm ever divulge the name of his first car?

Will e-mail messages and chatroom conversations ever be safe again?

Who's back will be the next target?

This, and more in upcoming episodes of "Mingles High Drama".

Stay tuned!

Wow... if H_W can connect my car to MY cigars... he DOES know things! Things that I don't know... such as -> I have cigars? And since I don't have a "status in life" could it work in reverse... if he runs me over... could I get a "status"? This sounds like a mission for David Copperfiend or Chris Angel... or... is H_W -> David Copperfield in disguise... the possibilites are endless in the Land of Mingles!!!

(LOL Cimm... my first car eh... hmmmm... was I suppose to remember that?)

"which will ultimately lead him to your cigars, running you over and ruining your status in life..."

don't forget throwing you in the trunk with a taser-wielding moose. Only the fair Mlady can save you now.

And thus the Fellowship Of the Ming... oh it's just too cheesy, never mind.

LOL -> "Fellowship of the Ming" (Trying to laugh quietly so no one hears me!) lol

On todays finance page:::::

Will Lingerie stocks plummet

Who will be at tonight's lingerie bon fire and whos the effigy they will burn?

Is this another Mingles witchhunt???

Will bra prices go down or cup sizes get smaller!!!

Stay tuned cause we aint in Kansas anymore............

This message is sponsored by buddy can you spare a dime, but a few thousand is better....

"The One Ring to Rule All of the Drama" is being taken by the Fellowship of The Ming, back the land of Mordor to be cast back into the Bonfire of the Lingerie...

And thus our story begins folks...

The One Ring, forged from the broken right front rim of Kyle Busch's car, by the evil and mighty....

*sitting back eating popcorn* this is some funny shit.

...Carl Edwards who is still fuming from the blurr of that fateful moment of 2008 when Kyle rocketed past him moments after a restart for a green-white-checkered-flag finish.

The snatcher of front rims Carl was his name... and forged rings and things was his game! But he was not alone in his dreams and schemes... for The One Ring and Fellowship Ming plots and plans was well on its way under direction of the (go figure) the one and very lonely...

(next)

.....JumpNJive, racing his Big Wheel against the Model A Ford driven by Bob (the dog) while smoking an illegal Cuban cigar with a mysterious "ring" smuggled in by none other than the "Crumpled One" from the planet Mongo.

Meanwhile, Ming the Merciless, evil ruler of the planet Mongo, has threatened to expose private emails between Dr. Zarkov and the Queen of Planet Drama, if she used the Magic IP De-coder "Ring" in the Mingles chatroom in an effort to.....

..All this Money-Mingles talk make wonder where Muckie went...

Star.. I live in France and I am NOT about to lose my house. Still I'd like some money to buy myself a new Dodge. I asked Pedro for 5000$ but he told me he can only pay in food stamps.

What shall I do?

Thanx in advance

After Muckie scamed Jump for a few bucks,she set her sights on Mr. Mingles,after a quick marriage without a prenuptial agreement Muckie took him to the cleaners.Now she's living the lap of luxury in her big mansion with her cabana boy tck and her chauffeur H_W who drives her around in fancy antique cars she now has....

......and this is the very reason why we die-hards keep our memberships as Minglers. Money is evil I tell ya.. the root of all evil!!

go ahead pholks, heed not my warnings..........

just KEEP IT UP and continue mentioning '*' (the One who's name we shouldn't post)

perhaps you'll be the next one (of many) who've disapeared after a public mingles dramafication....

who else besides QH, Bob from MT (and his lovely numerical wife 362436) and our most recent '*' casualty (Melissamichelleg) will just "disapear" before our very eyes???

if you don't believe in the '*' curse - Melissamichelleg is a perfect example as she disapeared right in front of us - one article of clothing at a time....

beware and do not mock the power of '*'

Cristo... you're scaring me.. you're starting to sound like, oh what's his name...hmmmm... RReLoad (bless his peapickin' heart)

i have a shovel Slinky, i will just dig myself out

reloaDD was a BALONEY HEAD!!

see?

SEE?

see HOW the evil '*' (who cannot be named) effects ALL of us???

reloaDD was even maybe a peapickin' baloney head!

Oh, great! I didnt heed the warnings, and now the asterisk on my keyboard is glowing and throbbing.

This is really scary!

yes, the asteRISK (aka the star button) - beware....

Rreload...I wonder what ever happened to him? Well, I mean, not really,,,,,lol

Rreload did not heed the warnings!

Well I am going into hiding. The one (whose name cannot be mentioned), and (who is presently still lurking), has me on the death list. Keep your scroll locks on, boys and girls...you too, will someday be the object of obsession and late night chat. When that day comes, look to the magic decoder ring, gaze into the shiny packaging receptacle, smile, and repeat these words three times with emotion and pomp (OK I'm not sure what exactly pomp is, but it always seems to come with different circumstances, so....):

"May I be in heaven half an hour, before the devil knows I'm dead."

I nominate H_W for Wizard. Hmmmmm... but is one enough.

I've seen Rre around, although I don't know if he reads here anymore.

Fellowship of the Ming... a tale of enthralling adventures and mythical beings, touching upon questions of philosophy and morality. Heroic deeds, unity for the sake of a common cause, true love, the triumph of Good over Evil all these coming to a forum near you in the epic "Fellowship of the Ming."

Forum fanatics and chatroom addicts leave their lands of Rivendell and Lorien marching together unified towards Mordor, the keyboard of evil! The enemy is sly and artful, and only unity, sincerity and kindness can subdue it.

But wait... who is the enemy possessing the keyboard of evil? Stay tuned to your favorite forum for pieces of the Mordor puzzle...

I'm pretty sure the keyboard of evil is somewhere in the United States. Canada has no evil intentions. It's going to be somewhere a lot of preppies are.

While I appreciate the nomination for Wizard, I need to know what the job entails.

I mean like, is there a job description for Wizard duties and responsibilities? What about benefits? Is there a union? What is the pay scale, what about sick days, and when can I go on vacation? Health & Dental? Hazardous pay for dealing with the *?

Hold on! The asterisk key just popped off my keyboard and is chasing Bob (the dog) all over the house.

Well, in days of yore being a Wizard entailed riding around the countryside either in a battered cart filled with magic and fireworks, or on a magnificent horse, bearing a sword and maybe a halfling, too.

I'm sure the job description could be modified to traveliing the countryside in a model A or on horseback.

But if you accept you're going to have to wear the battered hat. Mandatory.

Geesh, I got on a slow boat to India, sailed all over the Arabian Sea and missed all this. Come to Mars Capt., you'd fit right in.

Keerok,

I was about to second your nomination until... the red flag -> "union" was mentioned. Now that thats on the table... I'm questioning his wizard skills with his asterisk on the loose and all... makes one asked if he might be a better suited for "Potter's Minglings and the Order of the Asterisk?"

Some women Beg, some women borrow, some women lead, some women follow, But the Best Damn women Suck & Swallow.

Ah yes, "union", the ultimate. If he were to slip and say "liberal", it'd be dwarfdom for the unlucky candidate.

Shows how much I know, Shopstar...I thought all the slow boats went to China.

I believe James Riddle Hoffa was the original Wizards union member. His disappearance, to this day, is an "*" in the annals of fellowship legend.

I'm pretty sure Hoffa also left when Melissamichelleg published his addie (but with permission)

he got *'d

LMAO!!

In reference to the title of this forum... (and I'm only trying to make light of all this mess) ... Who said Minglers really ever grow up? I kind of think this place is like Neverland, yanno?

Cristo, we could form a website called, Baloney Heads Unite.. just curious how many people would join. heheh

since la chica verita already has her own 'hobbit' - I think she should be the elf'vin-queen, eh?

LOL I don't know about all that...

I like the queen status, though...Queen Verita and her Baloney Head servants sound good

I am still waiting for an answer for my Dodge....Or will the invisible Swedish friends answer me by mail????

In these hard times, with such a down economy, I would like to plead to any compassionate souls for some help. I am sure no one knows me, but it doesn't make my situation any different, I really want to get laid. I NEED some pussy. Certainly someone here can be willing to help, before I have to turn to a much darker way. Can't someone please donate a little time and vagoo?

LMAO...lookie who it is...LTNS!!!

Well maybe if the times weren't so "hard" there would be less of a need?????

Jes sayin....and what exactly is a vagoo..??? A gooey vagina??? Goo from Virginia???

Hey Sniffer......where the hell you been??? You run out and return to mingles??? LOL.....

...Queen Verita and her Baloney Head Servents?!?

hahahahah V babe, ya crack me up

"Fellowship of the Ming... a tale of enthralling adventures and mythical beings, touching upon questions of philosophy and morality" and whether or not this means that now we can go and trash the "Say something nice about the person above you" forum without fear of being deleted.. and this of course was secretly thought by one of the fellowship who secretly coveted not just the One Ring, but 'some' of the women that took off their lingerie to start the bonfire.... where the hidden writing on the ring glowed like an '*' with these words ":..:.: .::.:..:::. :.."

Sorry, I my braille button got stuck again...

And I forgot to say, my hats off to Cristo!

You rock and cracked me up with that post!

Jump told me if i could hook him up with BTO he would pay me dearly. he said he had a few extra pounds. funny he didnt sound british.

this debt goes back to the days of the Reagan Administration.

wow it was back when my tats numbered less than 10.

bye for now time to get faded.

btw barely legal is still legal isnt it???

I found this illuminating clue in an online travel brochure for fellowship travel international. It follows a day trip to Badaling, and I believe some very serious wizardry is at play here.

***"After lunch, enjoy a stop at the Ming Tomb in the peaceful shadow of Longevity Mountain."***

Badaling...BadaBOOM!

i dont wanna grow up, i'm a toys-r-us kid

**waves hi to towney** A girl has to have a purpose in life... I choose royalty

my parents said i would never amount to anything. i am proud i lived up to their expectations.

my purpose in life is to be the jester.

all hail the Queen V ;-)

*waves back*

NEWS FLASH!!!!

Was the Bonfire of the Lingerie Attended By The Creme de la Creme? Was The Land Of Modor put back on Society's A List? Did Ming give bailout money or just take plenty of snapshots and sell them to Star or People Magazine for a fortune in dracamas or pesos, rubles. Did the waterbras put out the bonfire? Was champagne or colt 45 served?

Was the Toy's r us Giraffe, slugging some brewsky's

singing, i get knocked down, i get up again, i get drunk. Did Warren Buffet Plan to bailout, the troubled one, by giving some kfc, for a finger licking good time. How many came in lingerie, how many decided to go au natural and who were the ones that forgot to wax or get the brazilian. And whos tushy was singed by the bonfire? Stayed tuned cause all these questions will be answered.....

(shifts and shuffles all the boxes in the attic looking for the cystal ball/eye for the answers before someone else broadcasts them...)

Toxxxic - my parents told me that I was a joker... on the nothingness scale does a joker rate higher than a jester?

What the hell?

its about time we get ta see the little one crane, dang cute kid

Beautiful Crane,

SNUFF - "What the hell?" is applicable to so many things on so many levels in the land of Mingles - please be more specific!

Crane, BEAUTIFUL baby... takes after mom eh! jj! I can see his "daddy" in him already!

yeah mlady, but the kid has more hair then his daddy

Crane your baby boy is so handsome, just like his daddy, hugsss and spanks

ooooh so much DRAMA took place while i was gone! and how i can be away from mingles for over a year and still be brought up remains a mystery to me lol... however i would like to clear a few things up... the 'collection' that has been brought up in this thread i'd like to say is something i wasn't aware of. I believe what people are refuring to is the time i spent in a homeless shelter last year in april. A friend of mine from mingles (i wont mention names) asked me at some point if i needed phone cards for my pre paid cell phone so i could keep in touch with people while i was going through a hard time.... because as they put it thats what friends are for.. to support you (emotionally) when you're down. That person texted me every day i was in the shelter to check on me and see how i was doing. When that person asked me if i needed phone cards i thanked her for the offer but told her that i was all set and could afford the $20 monthly card myself with the money i was getting. I'm assuming that the effort was put in to be sure the funds were available should i change my mind and need the phone cards. However i never asked for them or ended up needing them. The thought and the actions are greatly appriciated. But all i really needed from people was the contact so i didn't lose myself while in hard times. So i could stay grounded. Since that time i now have my own appartment with my son and i'm doing quite well. I just wanted to make a comment since i was brought up a few times in here and to let you all know that though it was discussed and the plan in place there was never any money or phone cards sent to me.. and as sweet an action as that would have been, had i gotten any cards i would have sent them back with a thank you note. I love you all and will forever be greatful for the support and love i got during a very hard period in my life. Thank you!!!! xoxoxo

Paying back it does a body good !

It's always a good thing to update your mailing address, even if it has not changed, then once the barrower is saved by god, and feels all warm & fuzzy inside and decide to pay that money back.. they will have your current address.

Nausea, Heartburn, Indigestion, Upset Stomach, Diherea? Want to get rid of all of this? THEN If you are a mingler who has barrowed money & decide it is now time to pay up, and get rid of Nausea, Heartburn, Indigestion, Upset Stomach, Diherea, once & for all, please send all payments to:

"Paying back a Mingler"

PO BOX 11454

Harrisburg PA 17108,

I know you just saved a bunch of money on your car insurance!

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lol i haven't been on in a long time, and i missed a whole soap opera! Word to the wise...NEVER EVER EVER lend money to family or friend unless two things happen, 1) a written agreement that outlines the loan and the expectation of repayment, and 2) you dont really need the money. If you can put it in writing and in your heart of hearts part with that money, then more power to you. Crane, Star, I understand why you took it to a public forum, but i can't say that i 100% agree, but it's not my place to judge. Star, good luck with the rebuilding effort. I have gone through a house fire it's not much fun.

LAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ((HUGS)) WHERE THE HECK YOU BEEN WOMAN??

Thank everyone else for their constructive criticisms and opinions...i'm glad we can all place our input on things...

((((( Crane ))))) Hugs back ! Where have I been? Out-side-a TastyFreeze, suckin on a ....... chilidog? lol AND I save a lot of money on my car insurance too.. lol

Anytime I'm asked if I have any "spare" money, I respond with "Sorry, they didn't put any spare money in last week's pay-check."

Wow the drama brings out the OG's huh?? This one was a bit sad tho...I hate hearing that those I care about have been victims of some scammer...

as the bumper sticker on my 99 volvo tractor that i once drove read "driver carries no cash, he's married"!

mingles without drama, thats like having a ice cream sundae without the cherry!!! hi to everyone, hope your summer is going good!!! hugs

I'm Innocent and openly admit i dont know what growing up is. wellllllllll least not that type of growing up

ok maybe a part of me grows up depends am i lying on my back? is this an age issue i mean physically or mentally or am i think not straight?

Nope back to my original statement I openly admit i'll never grow up LOL