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9/11 WE REMEMBER
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ManhattanBabe (this topic's creator)
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I READ THIS IN TODAYS POST AND I WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL!!!

Ralph Peters

Ralph Peters has been a Post Opinion columnist since 2002. He is also Fox News' first Strategic Analyst. Ralph served for over two decades in the U.S. Army, as an enlisted man and officer, before retiring in 1998 to write and speak freely. He has experience in over 70 countries and is the author of 24 books, including novels, an adventure-travel memoir and works on strategy. While his home is at the Post, he also has editorial or contributor relationships with Armed Forces Journal, Armchair General Magazine and USAToday. He writes from the Washington, D.C. area, but remains, at heart, a proud coalcracker from Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania

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ManhattanBabe (this topic's creator)
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Eight years ago today, our homeland was attacked by fanatical Muslims inspired by Saudi Arabian bigotry. Three thousand American citizens and residents died.

We resolved that we, the People, would never forget. Then we forgot.

We've learned nothing.

Instead of cracking down on Islamist extremism, we've excused it.

Instead of killing terrorists, we free them.

Instead of relentlessly hunting Islamist madmen, we seek to appease them.

Our enemies' work: Ground Zero a week after the terrorist attack. AP

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Instead of acknowledging that radical Islam is the problem, we elected a president who blames America, whose idea of freedom is the right for women to suffer in silence behind a veil -- and who counts among his mentors and friends those who damn our country or believe that our own government staged the tragedy of September 11, 2001.

Instead of insisting that freedom will not be infringed by terrorist threats, we censor works that might offend mass murderers. Radical Muslims around the world can indulge in viral lies about us, but we dare not even publish cartoons mocking them.

Instead of protecting law-abiding Americans, we reject profiling to avoid offending terrorists. So we confiscate granny's shampoo at the airport because the half-empty container could hold 3.5 ounces of liquid.

Instead of insisting that Islamist hatred and religious apartheid have no place in our country, we permit the Saudis to continue funding mosques and madrassahs where hating Jews and Christians is preached as essential to Islam.

Instead of confronting Saudi hate-mongers, our president bows down to the Saudi king.

Instead of recognizing the Saudi-sponsored Wahhabi cult as the core of the problem, our president blames Israel.

Instead of asking why Middle Eastern civilization has failed so abjectly, our president suggests that we're the failures.

Instead of taking every effective measure to cull information from terrorists, the current administration threatens CIA agents with prosecution for keeping us safe.

Instead of proudly and promptly rebuilding on the site of the Twin Towers, we've committed ourselves to the hopeless, useless task of rebuilding Afghanistan. (Perhaps we should have built a mosque at Ground Zero -- the Saudis would've funded it.)

Instead of taking a firm stand against Islamist fanaticism, we've made a cult of negotiations -- as our enemies pursue nuclear weapons; sponsor terrorism; torture, imprison, rape and murder their own citizens -- and laugh at us.

Instead of insisting that Islam must become a religion of responsibility, our leaders in both parties continue to bleat that "Islam's a religion of peace," ignoring the curious absence of Baptist suicide bombers.

Instead of requiring new immigrants to integrate into our society and conform to its public values, we encourage and subsidize anti-American, woman-hating, freedom-denying bigotry in the name of toleration.

Instead of pursuing our enemies to the ends of the earth, we help them sue us.

We've dishonored our dead and whitewashed our enemies. A distinctly unholy alliance between fanatical Islamists abroad and a politically correct "elite" in the US has reduced 9/11 to the status of a non-event, a day for politicians to preen about how little they've done.

We've forgotten the shock and the patriotic fury Americans felt on that bright September morning eight years ago. We've forgotten our identification with fellow citizens leaping from doomed skyscrapers. We've forgotten the courage of airline passengers who would not surrender to terror.

We've forgotten the men and women who burned to death or suffocated in the Pentagon. We've forgotten our promises, our vows, our commitments.

We've forgotten what we owe our dead and what we owe our children. We've even forgotten who attacked us.

We have betrayed the memory of our dead. In doing so, we betrayed ourselves and our country. Our troops continue to fight -- when they're allowed to do so -- but our politicians have surrendered.

Are we willing to let the terrorists win?

Ralph Peters' new thriller, "The War After Armageddon," goes on sale next Tuesday.

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09/11/2009 12:54 PM

Wants to mobilize his own private army of the gullible 'bots as a fifth column against the American people from within. Wants citizens to inform on one another. Very "fishy" indeed. Why are there government-placed ads recruiting personnel with "internment camp experience" being placed in military magazines? Who does he intend to inter? Dictators like Chavez and Ahmadinejad are his heroes, not his sworn enemies. Mr. Peters, continue your blessed work!!

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09/11/2009 12:54 PM

Has released c l a s s i f i e d material to the public eye for no reason other than to appease our enemies.

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09/11/2009 12:52 PM

Wants to severely cut the defense budget. Like sneaking into a citadel to open the gates for the enemy to enter.

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09/11/2009 12:50 PM

This apologist Presidential wannabe BOWS to a financier of terrorists instead of standing tall like a proud American. This thing wants to prosecute the very CIA agents who have helped bring terrorists to justice and to protect our lives.

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ManhattanBabe (this topic's creator)
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TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO DIED ON 9/11 AND TO THOSE WHO WHERE THERE TO HELP CLEAN UP YOU ARE IN MY PRAYS GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
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nrokinu
9/11/2009 1:20:31 PM
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Excellent post Manny!
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robbi642
9/11/2009 2:06:08 PM
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Amen......!!!
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SuperBubba
9/11/2009 2:09:20 PM
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Thank you Manny!

The 343 brothers lost that day and the nearly 3000 civilians are constantly in my prayers

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Hunter_Rep
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I will not be silenced as the government has silenced it self.I will speak out against the terrorist no matter what any politically correct moron says.

I will remember what happened that tragic day and i will remember those that lost there lives.

I will remember the men and women, my brothers and sisters, who not only went to war to avenge the fallen of 9/11, but those that gave there lives.

I am not just an American, i am a patriot. I served my country to preserve the freedoms and liberties we have.

All Gave Some, Some Gave All!

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Lisa4631
9/11/2009 2:31:39 PM
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I *so* love my fellow American heroes, no matter if they are/were in uniform or not.

My heart swells and my eyes well up THANK YOU - I WILL NEVER FORGET

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shopstar
9/11/2009 2:32:26 PM
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Never Forget! No Apologies!
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Ron_092
9/11/2009 6:32:05 PM
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Superb post Manny. In the past 8 years there have been many people up here north of the 49th who have proudly worn T-shirts emblazoned with both the Stars and Stripes and the Maple Leaf and the caption "United We Stand."

On December 6, 1917 in Halifax Nova Scotia, the French munitions ship Mont Blanc collided with the Belgian Relief ship Imo. The resulting explosion levelled half the city and killed an estimated 2,000 people. Among the first relief efforts to arrive was a trainload of doctors, nurses and rescue workers from Boston. To this day, the city of Boston receives a Christmas gift from the province of Nova Scotia. . . a Christmas tree.

In the ice storms that ravaged the North-East of the US and Eastern Canada several years ago, Canada sent military and civilian workers to the U.S. to assist in relief and recovery.

And on 9-11, once again Canadians responded with medical and other professional aid to New York, many of these people just showed up there and said "I'm here, what do you need me to do?"

When Kitrina pounced on New Orleans, one of the first disaster response teams to arrive was a team from British Columbia.

We do stand united. We are neighbors and we are brothers and sisters. Like any neighbors or family, we might not always see eye-to-eye, but we are still there for eachother.

Rest assured, that I am one Canadian who like you will not forget!

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Hunter_Rep
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I love messing with Canadians, but i remember in 1996 a masive storm hit Oregon and parts of southern Washington. the Columbia river in down town Portland ran over the sea walls in some places. Power was out over half the state, not only did we get help from power and phone crews from northern Cali and Idaho but i seen several power trucks from Canada.
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Ron_092
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Its what we do, rep. And yes, I know there's lost of "chops-busting" between the US and Canada, hell, I've participated in some of it too. But when the chips fall, we're on this patch of dirt together, and neighbors gotta be neighbors or the neighborhood goes to hell.
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tck_beachbum
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9-11...?

I think it might be time to start openly airing the footage of the twin towers attack.

Too many people are wondering why security is such a pain in the ass at airports.

Too many people wonder why Arabic looking people are checked and double-checked.

Air the footage of the towers going down, people won't wonder anymore.

Why suppress the horrors that definitely indeed did occur for all to witness?

Pretty soon we'll have muslim jihadists claiming it as all hoax - it never happened.

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bullwinkle57
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ManhattanBabe (this topic's creator)
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shame on me,its a shame on alot of people for not remembering and taking freedom for granted, freedom must never be taken for granted-- and do me a favor toy stay out of my postings
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joshsluss
9/16/2009 12:28:47 AM
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Ummm...... OK? What about Obama callin Kanye a jackass!! yeah!!!!!!!
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Hunter_Rep
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hey manny, its times like these that the delete button works great.
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tck_beachbum
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Most Islamic jihadist "pilots" will do that... smart, huh?

What does Allah think of that violence and murder? wink

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hotfootballer
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ManhattanBabe, you are a disgrace to the United States of America. people like you and republicans will be the only ones to be blamed when your country in the future gets collapsed or destroyed.

as for your long post, well as far as i know some members of CIA have tortured prisoners, haven't they? need i say more?

as for Obama bowing down to a king, well you should know by now that a king or queen is a higher post than a president or prime minister, the highest in the world. so even the president of the USA whether it is Bush, Obama or Mister Fool must bow down! get it? as a show of respect i might say.

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Hunter_Rep
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A King or Queen dont mean crap to Americans, we kicked the crap out of England to gain our independence. We didnt do win just to bow down to some one from another country. now go away gayfootballer.
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Starfire58
9/17/2009 6:04:26 PM
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TY Manny, it was also the one year anniversary of the house fire. The empathy I feel for the victims is intense. When the smoke is all around you, you get so disoriented. All I did on Friday was cry. Cry for each of them with this empathy of what you can feel like in all that smoke...

The fear they must have felt, it breaks my heart...

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gtr420
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I will say in Pres. Obama's defense that I saw the bowing incident on the news... He obviously bowed in respect and not in submission. That being said..... NEVER TELL AN AMERICAN THAT HE OR SHE MUST BOW TO THE LEADER OF ANY NATION! WE DO NOT BOW TO OUR OWN LEADER AND WILL BE DAMNED IF WE BOW IN SUBMISSION TO ANY OTHER LEADER! And no, a king is not higher than a president or prime minister. They are all world leaders just the same.
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Ron_092
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I agree, gtr. In many cultures a bow is a sign of respect. Showing respect for someone is not the same as showing subservience. And that Obama did bow, it shows that he was displaying respect not only for another world leader but also for that leader's culture.

In my work I often have dealings with corporate honchos from Japan. And yes, we do give a slight bow when greeting one of them. It is simply showing respect, not subservience.

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I completely agree with gtr and Ron. The bowing is not a sign of subservience, only a gesture of respect. Further I would ask you to take a look at those same dignitaries visiting here. They would offer the same bow to our President in the same gesture of respect, not subservience. Get a clue on different cultures and their mores!
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Hunter_Rep
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the only way i would show respect to a world leader is if i actually show some restraint and dont flip them the bird. I got no respect for any world leader, its those morons that cause this world to become what it is.
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gtr420
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I would have loved to read that post ^

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well i wish you would become a terrorist, that way you could become a suicide bomber and rid the world of yer fat slobbish ass.
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What I remember about 9-11 as a Canadian was my first job working IT, realizing the culmination of years of hard work and sacrifice I'd put into bettering myself beyond the blue collar minimum wage work I'd done before, and my boss telling me that morning that a jet had crashed into one of the Twin Towers in NYC. Oblivious to what was really happening, I thought of a story I'd heard where a bomber had crashed into the Empire State Building during WW2 so I really didn't give it much thought other than a hope that there weren't many people hurt or killed. But when the news said a second jet crashed into the tower, I had what can best be described as a WTF moment where I experienced for an instant what it felt like to know that true evil exists in the world. My next thought was that I might be feeling what a previous generation endured on the morning of Pearl Harbor, then I immediately remembered the people I'd met in St Louis the winter before and I hoped they were to a person all right and nowhere near the Twin Towers that morning or harmed by that tragedy.
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FrankenBiff
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In retrospect, I thought your government knew what it was doing when it invaded Iraq and now to me Iraq makes less sense when the last known location of Osama Bin Ladin remains Afghanistan. And Afghanistan seems to remain the place where the Taliban and al-Qaida have the strongest ties to one another in what seems to be a conspiracy of hatred against what the United States represents as the modern Western world and this disease is what seems to be infecting and destabilizing Pakistan and other mid-East countries. And what makes less sense to me is this nonsense in this and the other forums where the anti-Obama and anti-American rhetoric seems to play right into the hands of the terrorists. And for those of you who hate to be told things by 'furriners', let me introduce myself as a son of a woman born in Roberts, Montana, and a man born in Lincoln County, South Dakota. I am a first generation Canadian who had a great-great-Grandfather who fought at Manassas. If not for the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1919, I would be you living in your neighborhood.
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And here's a history lesson for you of true American heritage: war is hell. Sherman said as much in your civil war and it remains a truism to modern times. Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, WW2 was not a cakewalk for your country in the early years. Pearl Harbor, the Phillipines, the early battles for the South Pacific islands-- they weren't all victories and they weren't all easy. If the US had called it quits not long after MacArthur gave his 'I shall return' speech from the Phillipines where the US suffered a stunning defeat, where the hell would the world be now? Here's something else for you Americans to consider from an outsider's view: you think it's your awesome high-tech weapons that makes you a powerful force in the world, well, guess what? Weapons aren't worth crap if you lack the resolve to endure adversity. For a while during WW2, the Italians fielded one of the most fiercest fighter planes of that era but did it win them the war? Did Hitler's terror weapons defeat the Allies? Not hardly. What has always been most fearsome about the Americans is not their weaponry but the resolve that America brings into its conflicts, what the Japanese architect of Pearl Harbor called 'awakening a sleeping giant'. And yet the most perplexing thing about America is how inward-looking you want to become and how eagerly you embrace isolationism while the rest of the world around you burns.
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Well, guess what. This is the world that you're part of and the al-Qaida / Taliban aspect of it doesn't give a shit if you want to pull your troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, it has your blood in its scent and it wants more and it won't stop for any reason. These aren't the Viet Cong who just wanted you out of their country, these are sick killers who have a biblical hatred for you and wherever you call home. You want to take your ball and go home because the play got a little rough? Fine, but don't think that'll stop this collection of cheap thugs and common killers like the Taliban and al-Qaida who bullshit the rest of the world as purported followers of Islam. No major religion in this world condones the kind of murder that these cheap killers promote and it would be helpful if the moderate Muslims in this world grew a pair and said as much. From what these al-Qaida/ Taliban terrorists have done to you so far, they know how to hurt you and the more they make you hurt, the more powerful they feel. You want to pull your troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq? How do you feel about pulling your troops out of Guam or the Virgin Islands or Newark or San Diego? Al Qaida and the Taliban have declared war on the United States and you're ready to quit because you're losing troops overseas? Will it make you feel any better if you start losing troops on your own soil?
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If it annoys you to hear this from a Canadian, what do you think your parents or grandparents would tell you who actually lived through the Great Depression and WW2 and were strengthened after so much adversity that shaped their character before they birthed you into the good times that you feel is your constitutional right to enjoy without distraction or responsibilities? Did they quit? What are you giving to the next generation if you quit? War is hell, America. Don't take it from me, listen to one of your civil war generals but take strength from it, not fear.
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That quite frankly was the... BEST... POST... EVER. Thank you for shining light on what America is all about. I totally agree. Unfortunetly, we Americans listen to people like Glenn Beck who instill so much fear amongst each other that we don't literally know who we are anymore. It's a tragedy.
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Ron_092
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Bump^
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robbi642
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Well said Frank.......Thanks!!
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toyman
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biff,you are a complete idiot!

that was a very lame post,especially the part where you question moderate islams commitment to solving americas foreign policy isssues...get a life dude!

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10/28/2009 8:27:39 AM
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Let's see, toyman called my post lame and branded me an idiot... whew, what a relief! I tell ya, on those extremely rare occasions when I'm on the same page as toyman, that's when I get worried. I usually take some aspirin, drink plenty of fluids, get some rest, and I'm all better again. Thanks for the vote of confidence, toydude!
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ManhattanBabe (this topic's creator)
10/28/2009 1:44:20 PM
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lol Biff, i rhink what the world needs to do is get rid of all the toymen,bullwinkle,garys,of this world. But easier said then done.
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bullwinkle57
11/1/2009 11:10:08 PM
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i dont think your opinion matters much on the world stage...
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WebcamMostie
11/2/2009 9:44:59 AM
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But look, manny- It matters to toy! hahahaha
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Mostie i knew he would eventually show up to say something, lol
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bullwinkle57
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douchebags...
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